Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby BayouBengal » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:55 pm

S3 will custom mix the color for you. All you need to do is send them a color card identifying the color you want.

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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby JimmY » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:36 pm

Hi Bryan,

Yes that is what I'm recommending for rolling and tipping. It appears to me that the more coats, the deeper the brush marks so you end up sanding more to get the paint level.
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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby DrBryanJ » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:58 pm

I didn't know they would mix color for you. There are some Barrett Jackson colors I would like to use. I'll have to check it out.

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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby Bill Edmundson » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:22 pm

Does the value of this forum ever end? I didn't know they would mix either.

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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby Mr Hot Rod » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:38 pm

If you're spraying your finish, you have many options :

If you wish to roll & tip your finish :

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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby JimmY » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:00 am

From the System 3 paint "Description and Application Guide":

Notes:
We factory-tint all our colors, using special pigment dispersions that
these materials require. Custom-matched colors are available, in
gallons only, for an up charge. System Three requires a sample of the
color to be matched.
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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby ToddM » Tue May 09, 2017 1:19 pm

From Dave: “So I really think that spraying on a finish is likely very intimidating.”

I use nitrocellulose lacquer on furniture, and I brush it on, even though spraying with an HVLP is quicker, more accurate, and more consistent, because I am completely unconfident in my ability to clean out a solvent based product from a sprayer. And my perception is that the cleanup will be very messy. Spraying is easy; cleaning, not so much. And no, I don’t have to clean the brush I use for lacquer. I wrap the brush in Saran wrap and stick it in lacquer thinner for a minute before I use it the next time.

From Dave: "The varnish will give the boat a really shiny gloss and also will provide UV protection that the epoxy does not do. You're done.”

You don’t color sand varnish? I have always used lacquer, so I don’t know varnish.

From Dave: “Then, after you have the cloth and epoxy applied, you can sand that until smooth and then apply the primer.”

What happens if you sand through the epoxy to the fiberglass? Can you just apply some more epoxy, or do you have to go though some monsterous process?

From Dave: “ With a little prep work, some careful masking and good spray techniques, it is amazing the quality that spray cans can deliver these days.”

Absolutely! When I want to spray nitrocellulose lacquer, I use rattle cans cuz I don’t want to deal with the clean up.

There is a cliché about paint or clear finish quality, “The looks and durability of the finish coat depend more on the prep than the actual paint.” And I have found this to be true. When the directions say to clean and tack the surface, there is a really good reason. When the directions say to sand any shiny surface before applying, there is a reason. When the directions give temperature and humidity limits for application, there is a good reason. When the directions say to pour the finish through a strainer or stir well, or when your compressor says to use a moisture filter, guess what? When you hear about an incredible finish where someone applied 20 coats of lacquer, it ain’t the 20 coats that look so good. It is the leveling, (sanding), between every few coats, and the final polishing, (320 grit to 4000 grit to the polishing material), that looks good. 18 of the 20 coats of lacquer may have been sanded off, but whatever remains is flat.

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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby BayouBengal » Tue May 09, 2017 1:46 pm

Sounds like we got a new guy here with a lot more than a cursory knowledge and amount of experience regarding finishes and that's something that a lot of guys can use help with. Welcome to the forum!!! :D

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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby ToddM » Wed May 10, 2017 1:53 pm

Sorry to disappoint BayouBengal, but my experience is limited to nitrocellulose lacquer and some oil finishes for wood furniture. I know nothing about varnish, and my experience with paint is that just like the cliche, 90% of a good paint job is in the prep. And I have learned about lacquer the hard way, fixing mistakes, rather than the easy way, following the directions.

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Re: Let's demystify some of these boat finishes

Postby BillJ » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:08 pm

I do realize this thread has a little age on it but lots of great information.


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