Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by monitor » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:36 pm

Boy a white boat, instead of mahogany, sure would be pretty! :lol:
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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by Bluesman » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:41 pm

I saw these Corona Glasskoter rollers at West Marine in San Diego this weekend. I've not used them but they say they are specific for smooth epoxy finishes.

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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by monitor » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:08 pm

Those rollers look good, definately worth a try.
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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by CarlM » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:18 am

If you decide to use a torch or heat gun to help get rid of bubbles don't linger in any one area. It works great but you have the possibility or scorching the epoxy which is bad thing.

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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by monitor » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:40 am

Gotcha. Thanks Carl and Jim for those hints. The bottom will be a good place to experiment and learn.
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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by monitor » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:58 pm

Bottom paint...the Classic Boat Connection folks convinced me that their Epifanes Yacht Enamel would work fine for a trailered boat. After reading more in these forums, I am having doubts. Especially after seeing Bill's standard response: "Bottom paint for bottoms, top paint for above the water line!"
Anyone with experience using Epifanes Yacht Enamel for bottom paint?
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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by kens » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:20 am

I'll throw this out there just to stir the pot.
There are a great many fillers for resin that can be choose from, example:
I used graphite powder for the bottom supposedly the graphite is a dry lubricant help the boat slide off the trailer. It gives a black color bottom.
There is aluminum powder that would yield a silvery color.
There is COPPER powder that give you what? That old school copper bottom paint.!!
But it is not paint, it is epoxy, it remains compatable with any and all future repairs/recoats as may be required for epoxy product.
And if you don't like it, you can paint over it because it is still just epoxy.
I'm gonna, for the heck of it, throw out a vote for copper powder epoxy bottom, on a mahogany hull.
I think it would look cool, and be quite durable.
Oak is over rated, everything about it takes extra time; then it warps, splits or checks !!! :roll:

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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by Bill Edmundson » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:39 am

Copper also prevents fouling.

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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by mickfly » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:25 pm

I used graphite (and some black pigment) on my hull-bottom. Haven't launched yet, so I don't know if I would recommend or not. It looks better than I expected. I floated her in November and she didn't sink, but that was a leak test, not a performance test!
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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by monitor » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:18 pm

I like the idea of coloring the epoxy. I found pigment colors at Total Boat. Will the colored epoxy need UV protection? It will be visible up to the boot top.
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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by monitor » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:35 pm

BTW, mickfly, I don't usually say things like this but you have a beautiful bottom...just saying. :lol:
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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by mickfly » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:27 pm

That’s what my wife says, but thanks for the compliment.

As for UV protection, I varnished the bottom. Wish I hadn’t as I expect the trailer bunks will peel it off over time. I could have just varnished the exposed part.

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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by CarlM » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:05 pm

I agree Mickfly that bottom looks great! Thanks Kens and Mickfly for putting that option out there. You are making my choice for bottom paint difficult. I was thinking of using the Total Boat Krypton bottom paint but now I am reconsidering. Does anyone else have a product they would recommend?......Thanks.......Carl

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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by Bill Edmundson » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:24 pm

Carl

I know that aluminum flakes add UV protection to epoxy. Copper probably does too. I don't know about graphite. But probably. I used VC Performance on the Tahoe and have been very happy with it.

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Re: Barrelback-20 Louisville Kentucky

Post by CarlM » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:35 pm

Thanks Bill!!

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