Barrelback 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby alycat » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:54 pm

I have been researching hinges for the engine hatch. Have any of you ever used a Taco Intelli-Hinge. It has a ball joint within the hinge to allow for a hinge on concave hatches. I am thinking about trying it out, but didn't know if anyone else has done this or come up with a better solution. I have provided the link to the spec sheet.

http://tacomarine.com/ccp51/media/images/spec_sheets/Taco_Marine-Spec_Sheet-H90-0400-Intelli_Hinge.pdf

I also want to use gas struts to lift the hatch so I am trying to figure that out as well.

Thanks in advance. Trying to knock some of the cobwebs off the tools and get back to business on the boat. HA HA
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby bob smith » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:03 am

Neato! Looks like these would solve a lot of fitting problems.
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby alycat » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:47 am

After much contemplation I got the engine hatch fitted. Ordered the fancy dancy hinges for concave surfaces, so we will see how those look when they come in. Just hope it all goes back together when I take it apart to glue it up! :lol:

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Barrelback 19' stretched to 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby alycat » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:39 pm

Got the hinges in. Look pretty neat and looks like they are going to work out!

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Barrelback 19' stretched to 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby Brad Tucker » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:54 pm

Looking great!!! Did you do a single lid? Man, that would be awesome. I did gull wings on my Tahoe and can already see it's gonna be a bear accessing anything from the sides!

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby alycat » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:30 am

That's my plan. Single lid that hinges from the back. . I am going to have to figure out the gas struts I want to use to lift it, kinda like a car hood. :)

I have seen some 12volt lift mechanism but not sure if I want to go there just yet, little pricey.
Will Manwaring
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Barrelback 19' stretched to 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby Roberta » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:49 am

If you hinge from the back, that will give you better access from the cockpit area. Because of the shape of my hatch on the Torpedo, I needed to hinge up front. Those hinges look cool and I hope they resolve a problem I had hinging the curved deck. With the hinges lower than the crown of the deck, I had an interference at the crown when opening the deck. Maybe canting them would have changed the geometry. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. :lol:

I used the Lenco Hatch lifts. They are pricey, but work well. You might be able to get by with one. I needed two. Keep us up to date on how you proceed.

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby chugalug » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:10 am

:D Hope you plan on using a good catch on front of hatch.I did suicide door set-up on Bo-jest,but won't worry about wind blowing doors off at 6 mph versus you zooming along-bad bounce off of waves,door might come loose and get ripped off.or during trailoring. :roll:plus if you have riders in rear seating(I didn't see a pic of your top plan)they might get flattened.Maybe a hidden deadbolt setup for insurance :roll:
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby Rich Coey » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:58 pm

I used gas struts. Work great. They are Attwood SL34605 http://www.jmsonline.net/gas-hatch-lift ... 0-60lb.htm
I used a flush catch, it is a handle that lifts, then twists to open. I have never had it fail, but like chugalug said I did not want to take the chance, so I installed a chain with a catch that lets the hatch open far enough to unhook the chain, Then just let go of the hatch and it opens by itself. The struts are restricted on how fast they open so they don't slam the hatch up. You just have to experiment on the mounting points so that it opens the hatch as far as you want and uses the full travel of the strut when closed. Here are a couple pictures that you can see the latch. I do not remember where I got it but they are fairly common.

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby Rich Coey » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:18 pm

Here is a site that sells the latches. http://www.downwindmarine.com/Sea-Dog-H ... 91989.html

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby garrech » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:49 pm

Rich, that hatch looks great

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby alycat » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:01 pm

Thanks for the recommendations !!!
Rich, Roberta, et al thanks!! That is the look/functionality I am going for. :D
Will Manwaring
Shreveport, LA

Barrelback 19' stretched to 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby alycat » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:08 pm

Rich , Roberta do you have a picture of how you mounted your gas springs and your Lenco lift. I may have to modify the hatch a little bit to mount either option.
Will Manwaring
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby Roberta » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:42 pm

I used 3" AL angle U-bolted to the stringers and added square tube to adjust the height so the lifts would just close at the end of the stroke. I also made the upper mounting pad wide enough to fine tune the stroke by changing the position and, subsequently, the angle.

Here are some picks.

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Postby Rich Coey » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:54 pm

You can see the how the gas struts are mounted here. I have storage on the sides of the engine compartment so I had a place to mount the bottom ends of the struts, otherwise you would need to extend some type of bracket down for mounting. In this photo you can also see how I hinged the hatch. There are bronze bushings in the hatch and framing, then hitch pins through those. Instead of hinges and having to deal with the arch of the deck, when front of the hatch is lifted the rear drops down. The hatch trim across the back is mounted to the deck instead of the hatch. ( you can see this on a previous picture) To remove the hatch you disconnect the gas struts, close the hatch, the pins can be reached and removed from the rear cockpit then just lift the hatch off.

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