Barrelback 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by Lowka53 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:59 pm

8) I have a western version of a ac unit but it will not work in your area I use a evaporator cooler or what we call swamp cooler I find my epoxies cures better when it is running but it is very dry here even in the winter :wink:
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by KJM » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:32 am

alycat wrote:Finally figured out how to post pictures. I have been building since Sept and have almost got a shape of a boat. I had my first major upset this past weekend with the transom, so I am going to rebuild it, due to the bevel got me out of sorts. I think what I need to do is not try to cut the bevel, but cut it straight and sand to the bevel, about a 1/4 inch over the plans mark I think will do it. Merry Christmas to all!!! I hope everyone gets all the boatbuilding tools they need from Santa this year!! :D :D

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Hey William,

I saw your FB pics of your Barrelback and they are awesome! I have been waiting for years for this opportunity to build something of my own, and I'm starting to get ready for my own '19 Barrelback project. I have some simple start up questions. I messaged you on FB, so if you have a few minutes for a couple questions on this design project let me know. I appreciate your experience and advice on this matter. Thanks!


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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by alycat » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:35 pm

I haven't posted in a while, due to vacation, work, and kids school starting. I am on the second layer planking on the sides and making good progress. It will be a yeAr into the build coming up the first week of September. I thought I would be a little further along but I am happy, I just keep chugging along!!

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Will Manwaring
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Barrelback 19' stretched to 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by alycat » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:42 pm

Thought I would show a few pics of my progress, started fitting the first bottom layer planks. Sure make the boat look a lot bigger!!

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Will Manwaring
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Barrelback 19' stretched to 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by benpetre » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:26 pm

Will and others:

Can someone explain the argument for and against predilling the shafts hole before the bottom goes on? I don't understand the benefits of why you do that?

Thanks

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by alycat » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:11 am

I contemplated the same question for a while. I follow Roberta's thread and that is what she did on the torpedo. I thought it was a good idea to be able to see the drill bit go through the keel without all the planking in the way to ensure centerline and no drifting.

I will say that this technique is good for that, but I still have my flaws in my drilling. My bit seemed to wander even after I took all the precautionary steps written about in the threads on the forums. I am glad that the hole is a bit oversized to make up for my flaws and inexperience, since this was the first motor shaft hole I have ever drilled.

I am glad this part is over, and I can plank and sand.

I think I will be waiting to drill the rudder shaft until after all has been planked, I don't really have a reason for is except to just be putting it off. Ha ha ha ! :shock: and I want to make sure I offset to the correct side of the boat based on the motor rotation. I wonder if anyone has drilled the rudder shaft hole once the boat has been flipped, and used the cross bar to help in getting everything lined up?

It has been a year into my build and I am really proud of how far the project has come, sure my boat will have flaws, but hopefully they won't be noticeable except by me!! :lol:
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by benpetre » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:09 pm

It looks awesome. I am still bolting frames onto myour barrel back. I routinely turn to your posts/fb for inspiration!
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by alycat » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:13 pm

Anyone have this happen before? Looks like I had a mixing error? I am cleaning it off with acetone and will fit a new board. :cry:

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I am fixing to start the fourth layer on the bottom after I get that plank fixed!

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by Bob Perkins » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:14 am

Unset epoxy is typically mixing error.

I use a digital kitchen scale and 2:1 epoxies (i.e. System 3 and MAS) - that way there is nearly no math involved.

2 oz of resin, 1 oz of harder = 3 oz batch..

Then I WATCH THE WALL CLOCK and stir for at minimum 60 seconds. Larger batches for 2 minutes. Watch the clock.. 60 seconds is way longer than you think it is when stirring!
You can't over mix epoxy - you can only under mix it ;)

Pumps get all gummed up and can mess up your ratio's which matter +-10%

Once I started doing this - never had a bad batch again...
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ps. You can clean unset epoxy easily with white vinegar.
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by alycat » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:40 pm

Thank you! I will try the digital scale.

Has any one got a rough estimate on the amt of bf for the side veneer?

I am calculating about 110 bf per side using 5 rows, 22 feet, 8" wide 1/4 inch thick, (but will be planed to 1/8")

Doing some rough calcs to hopefully put an order together.

I have seen for the covering boards, full 3/4 by x width and I have also seen folks cutting 3/4 by 3/4 strips and laminating in the covering board. Is one better or easier than the other, or does it come down to looks, etc?
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Barrelback 19' stretched to 20'

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by alycat » Sat May 02, 2015 7:01 pm

Haven't updated in a while but I almost have all the planking complete and will start to prep for the bottom fiberglass and bottom paint.

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by benpetre » Sun May 03, 2015 5:03 pm

Gorgeous
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by RobertCugini » Mon May 04, 2015 4:38 pm

You are catching up! I'd better work more/faster...
I used interlux stain and then put CPES on the stain to set it before the glass.

Got the fiberglass from FIBERGLASS SUPPLY, which is a discounter, but everything came first rate.
Was able to buy fiberglass tape also, which is great for the seams and keel. I did one side at a time and put a
seam down the keel. I think I bought 60 inch cloth.

I ordered a motor and transmission today.
Marine v-6 fuel injected with full freshwater cooling and a velvet 71C transmission,
from Michiganmotorz

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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by alycat » Mon May 04, 2015 6:22 pm

Your boat is looking so good. Thanks for the info on the fiberglass. I am trying to get everything sanded now. Did you go with a particular brand from Michigan Motorz. I go there all the time looking at all the options, friendly folks there too. Did you use the interlux Chris craft stain or did you mix your own?
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Re: Barrelback 20'

Post by RobertCugini » Mon May 04, 2015 6:55 pm

Marine Power was the brand.
Merc, does not make an inboard motor replacement.
Decided long ago that I wasn't going to screw around with motor stuff on this project.
(Got lots of car projects for that)

As far as the stain, I went with the list recommendations which was a mix. I have it, I'll send it to you
Basically, both red and brown mahogany stains plus the chris craft color.

When you get to fiberglass, lets talk and I'll give you some hints that will make your life easier,
at least what worked for me.

Robert

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