Neeley's Barrelback - Sacramento

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Jim

Looks great. Set that motor in there! Get off that bike and on the water!

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Jimbob wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:41 pm
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but I just got a new motorcycle and have riding it instead of working on the boat. Guess I needed a break after 6 years. .... snipped> .....
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It's funny how motorcycles can do that. I spent a good part of my adult live riding. My last one I had for the first two years of the build. Boat is looking nice Jim. Won't be too much longer now.
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I understand Jim. I rode new and old bikes. Now i have other builds going on, along with the BB.
Can't wait to see it in the water!
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Got my gantry assembled this weekend. It took 4 of us to raise it up. Kind of like a barn raising but without the women cooking dinner and all of the other festivities. Next I had to rent a 14 foot step ladder to position the hoist and add additional bracing. I don't want anything go move when I drop (poor choice of words) the motor into the boat.
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Looking good Jim. Hopefully, the engine install will be smooth and you can start getting the final bits figured out.
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Last weekend I got a step closer to the motor install. I got the engine off of the pallet and onto my mock-up of the motor stringers and support brackets. The mock-up made it easy to adjust the motor mounts for proper placement. I found out that I will need to shorten one of my engine mounting brackets to clear some of the plumbing stuff on the engine. I put casters on the mock-up / stand so I can move it around prior to the install. My gantry worked out just fine. It didn't move or creak. That was a relief as I will need to lift the engine quite high to clear the boat. Next weekend I will take measurements from the mock-up/engine stand to determine where I will need to trim the frames for a fit. Then pop her in.
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That's really cool Jim. This is one of those things that really stands boat builders apart, the desire to do what is necessary to get the job done. Bravo.
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Way to go Jim, I’ve been waiting on this day from you. Your gantry makes mine look like popsicle sticks, you could lift the whole boat and trailer with that beast!
Good luck with the engine fit, there are sure to be minor fit issues.
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Jim,
my experience using my car engine hoist to do anything with the boat engine was, it is useless. It doesn’t have the capability to reach over the sheer and lift the engine straight up. It drags to the side as it lifts. So don’t dismantle your gantry to soon, mine is still up.
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Still fine tuning to get the motor into the boat. I lowered the motor into the boat but had to remove it to make modifications to get it to it's final resting place. The motor is back out of the boat so I can make some modifications. After struggling to get the motor under the deck beam, I decided to get out my circular saw and cut the sucker out of the way. After doing that I had to figure how to put the deck beam back in place after the motor is installed. I put in some tabs that the deck beam rests on, with 2 bolts on each end, that secures it in place. It's just as solid as before. I will fill the gaps from the cut with the white caulk which will align with the caulk lines the the rear of the boat. Turns out that the factory relocated oil filter will be right under the deck beam and I wouldn't be able to access it without removing the deck beam. I removed the factory oil filter relocation assembly, and have have ordered an after market relocation kit that has flexible hoses so I can relocate somewhere in the hatch area for easy access.

If I had it to do over, I would have put the engine into the boat before completing the decks. At least now I know for certain that I can easily remove the motor later if I need to.

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Removable deck beam back in place. White caulk will be in the cut grooves.
Removable deck beam back in place. White caulk will be in the cut grooves.
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Deck beam removed, mounting tabs in place.
The motor with the relocated oil filter at the top of the engine.  Before the deck beam cut.
The motor with the relocated oil filter at the top of the engine. Before the deck beam cut.
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More work prior to motor install.
The oil dip stick is at the front of the engine. I made the rear seat back hinged, but with the cushion on, it will only hinge forward so far. I got some panel connectors from rockler and installed them so that the rear seat back can be easily removed and re-installed for access to the front of the engine.
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Seat back installed onto connectors
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Great to see the engine going in Jim!
Take time to enjoy it, even with the extra work.
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Jim, your past posts remind me of the pain I went through getting a big Ilmor 430 into my Monte Carlo. It is extremely tight, and my fingers are crossed that the alignment with the prop shaft never changes, as adjustments to the mounts will be very difficult. I probably lifted that 1000# engine 30 times before I got it right. Had to rebuild the forward bulkhead into 3 pieces so it could be removed for access to the front of the engine. To say it's shoehorned in would be an understatement. Pity the future mechanic who may have to work on it!

You're progress looks great and we are both at about the same point I think. I am finish sanding the deck, then will be staining/varnishing. I've varnished the two hatch covers in the shop and learned a lot in the process, to apply to the deck. Thanks to Peter at Sierra Boat! My project is in Hawaii, but will be shipped to Petaluma for upholstery early in 2020 for a May launch at Tahoe. Maybe I'll see you on the Lake one day next summer!

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Looks great Jim, I agree engine access through the back seat is a must to reach the front of the engine. How much clearance do you have from your water pump pulley to the back seat? I’m doing 2 inches of clearance on mine.
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Thanks everyone!
Matt, I haven't gotten to that point yet, but i'm sure it will be close. I need to get the oil filter relocation on the engine before I try a re-install of the motor. I should be ok as my motor is a v6 which is approx 4" shorter than the v8.
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