20ft Texas Barrel

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Hercdrvr » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:12 pm

I don’t have enough air to run one of those but thanks for the offer.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Hercdrvr » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:27 pm

Started in with a Random O 60 grit to remove excess epoxy and little ridges between planks. Working well, the dents the Raptor nailer left are going to take some more work though. Going to try some Famowood filler first. It’s easy to make bigger divots sanding out small divots.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by hoodman » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:45 pm

You got any sawdust from your planking you could mix with epoxy?
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Jimbob » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:33 pm

I would use the famowood it will take the stain like the surrounding wood won't be seen later.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by hoodman » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:02 pm

Ah yeah I wasnt thinking about stain.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by DrBryanJ » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:26 am

I used famowood mahogany and it worked well. From two feet away it is hard to find.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Jimbob » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:42 pm

Hi Matt,
I would suggest that you spend the time to get the famowood sanded down even with the surrounding plank. Check it so you are completely even with the planks. I didn't spend as much time as I should have, and the result was that I had small indentations in the varnish later. Since I had so many coats of varnish (probably 20+) it was easy to smooth things out, but knowing what I know now, I would take your time at this stage.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Hercdrvr » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:08 pm

Logged about 6 hours on the Random Orbital with 60grit today. Worked out well enough. Next, Famowood the gaps between planks and dents left by the Raptor nailer.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Hercdrvr » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:54 am

Getting Famowood into the seams is time consuming and wastes a lot of product. I tried putting the filler in a zip lock bag and cutting the corner off the bag as an applicator, that sort of worked. I wish Famowood was sold in a caulk tube, I’m going to try a cake icing bag with a small tip. I’ll have to thin it with some acetone so it will flow. I want the filler in the crack, not all over the wood. The more I have to sand the seams, the prouder I leave the middle of the planks. More work later.
Anyone have any thoughts? Other products out that will work better?
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by hoodman » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:40 am

Matt, you're doing a great job. She's got some sweet curves. Getting ready to do a bunch of RO sanding myself.

Are any of the gaps big enough for little slivers of wood?
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by khundley » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:57 am

Long time lurker, ex-guitar builder with plans in the next 5 years to build a Riviera....as far as dents are concerned, you can spritz them with water and literally iron them. Get a cloths iron good and hot, and wet the dents, and iron them out. The dents are compressed wood. The water soaks in and swells the dent out, and then steams off from the iron....might help save a lot of sanding, and eliminates the problem of the wood not soaking in any stain. I do this on my guitars and my wood floors. Keep the iron moving and use plenty of water to prevent scorching until you get the hang of it.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Hercdrvr » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:27 am

hoodman wrote:Matt, you're doing a great job. She's got some sweet curves. Getting ready to do a bunch of RO sanding myself.

Are any of the gaps big enough for little slivers of wood?
No, we’re talking 1/16th max. Much of the seams are tight.

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Jimbob » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:59 am

Matt,
Thin out the famowood with acetone quite a bit. It should be somewhat runny. Apply with a small blade, scraping off the excess so you will have less to sand. In my opinion, you don't need to leave the famowood "proud" because you are just filling the gap even with the surrounding plank. If you need to, go back over with a second coat. Bottom line, if you have the famowood thinned enough it should be an easy task. Hand sand the famowood so as not to disturb the surrounding plank.

By the way I left some of the smaller gaps alone because I wanted to accent the individual planks and not end up with the "formica look". The small gaps filled in with varnish later. Classic boats that I have seen, have those small gaps. See examples in the pictures below.

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My boat showing the gaps between the planks.
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Nice gaps.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by Hercdrvr » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:17 am

Thanks Jim, good advice, I’ll thin it down more.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Post by mickfly » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:00 am

I ordered some syringes on the internet (amazon)...the ones with a curved plastic tip (no needle). These worked well for filling long cracks but I still had to use a putty knife to fill the crack and smooth down the bead.

I did not have to thin the famowood, I just used a small putty knife to press it into the syringe. It's a bit messy, but I did it over the can and what didn't make the syringe wasn't wasted. The syringes are only a dollar or so apiece. You might be able to reusd them, but I just waited until I had a fairly long run of cracks and screw holes to fill and discarded when I was finished for the day.

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