20ft Texas Barrel

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby kens » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:08 pm

Can you take both engines combined and make 1 good one??
Oak is over rated, everything about it takes extra time; then it warps, splits or checks !!! :roll:

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Hercdrvr » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:45 pm

The engines and transmissions are free to take but just the logistics of extraction aren’t easy. I’ve been down this road before and there’s nothing free about free. It would take a backhoe or good sized frontend loader just to get them out, only to haul them home and discover they weren’t winterized and both blocks are toast.
I’m sticking with my plan for a mid 80’s tournament ski boat as a doner for engine, trans and trailer.
As a side note, and let me say this delicately so not to offend, Chriscraft has nothing on us amateurs when it comes to quality craftsmanship. I know this old boat is a rotting goner but I was examining the carpentry of the frames, planking and fasteners and it's definitely a mass produced wood boat.
Back to work planking Barrelback now,
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Hercdrvr » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:17 pm

Just warm enough for poxygrip to set up. Using wider strips of plywood on port side of bottom. 10 inch wide goes on fine until I get up to last 3 ft at the bow. The unequal width against the orther side looks kinda funny but it will be covered up and never seen again next layer.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Jimbob » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:36 pm

Matt,
Looking good!, you are getting there. I especially like what you did with the planking at the bow. I had a lot of trouble there.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby falconer100 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:09 pm

Jimbob wrote:I cut each plank close (slightly proud) the centerline of the keel. When I got one complete side done, I took a plane and trimmed that side down to the centerline. (it's like fairing all over again) After doing that, I planked the opposing side once again leaving that side slightly proud, and then once again taking a plane and trimming it down to the centerline. The result is that on the centerpoint of the keel, you will not have a seam, but overlapping pieces of plywood (stronger that a butt joint ). If your fairing is correct you will end up with a centerline that doesn't wander. I feel that the overlapping is also important at the bow and stern. It's also easier than trying to make a perfect seam where the two sides meet. I tried that first and it was a nightmare.
Anyway, this worked for me and I was very happy with the results.
Jim

Absolutely agree with Jim, this is how I did it, keeps the centre line true with a very strong joint.

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Hercdrvr » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:22 pm

Layer 1 complete, she’s closed up. Well, not exactly, I haven’t started on the transom yet. I need to stare at it a while longer.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Hercdrvr » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:26 pm

I think I can use wider strips next layer in the middle section of the hull.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby neel thompson » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:53 am

Nice work Matt. She looks great....

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Hercdrvr » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:32 am

Thanks Neel, your PB 22 is a nice build to follow on the forum.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Hercdrvr » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:05 am

Question- I’m working on the 2nd layer of the cold mold planking process and using a lot of Poxy-Grip getting full coverage for glueing. It doesn’t speed well. Can I use Poxy-Shield with some filler? It spreads much easier and I won’t use so much material. I know, I know, don’t skimp on materials but, those 2 pieces of plywood are never coming apart with poxy-shield.
All advice welcome,
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Brad Tucker » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:14 am

I used thin epoxy thickened with silica on all but the mahogany outer layer, and spread it with a notched trowel. On the final mahogany layer, I used fine sawdust I had saved, so any small gaps were filled in with something that wasn't white, if this helps.

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Hercdrvr » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:15 am

Doesn’t spread well

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Hercdrvr » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:21 am

Thanks Brad Tucker,
Always nice to get back the answer you wanted to hear. I’ll continue.
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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:26 am

Matt

I use thickened regular epoxy. I wet the back of the new strip with plain epoxy, then thicken and put on the base.

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Re: 20ft Texas Barrel

Postby Jimbob » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:56 pm

Matt,
Get some stuff called "quick fair" by system three. Works great, and you can sand it in 3 hrs.
Jim
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