Roberta's Super Spartan

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Thanks, Warren. Yes I do have that link you sent me a while back. It will help me get something out of that Merc 110. I plan on getting a better motor later with the Quickie lower unit, but for now the more benign motor will aclimate the Granchillin better.

Roberta :D :D :D :D
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Built Zip "Oliver IV", Super Spartan "Jimmy 70", and Torpedo "The Glen L".

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Roberta Hegy wrote:Thanks, Warren. Yes I do have that link you sent me a while back. It will help me get something out of that Merc 110. I plan on getting a better motor later with the Quickie lower unit, but for now the more benign motor will aclimate the Granchillin better.

Roberta :D :D :D :D
I won't tell who on here has a Mark-20H !!!! :wink:

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That looks like a cool project. I'm sure the kids will love it.

You need to slow down, Roberta. I don't want you building two boats in the time it took me to build one!
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upspirate wrote:
Roberta Hegy wrote:Thanks, Warren. Yes I do have that link you sent me a while back. It will help me get something out of that Merc 110. I plan on getting a better motor later with the Quickie lower unit, but for now the more benign motor will aclimate the Granchillin better.

Roberta :D :D :D :D
I won't tell who on here has a Mark-20H !!!! :wink:

Please Please Please tell me!!!! That would be a great motor for Granny!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks, Bob!! Us retirees just have too much free time. If I didn't build things, I would get fatter sitting around watching soap operas. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Roberta :D :D :D :D :D
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Built Zip "Oliver IV", Super Spartan "Jimmy 70", and Torpedo "The Glen L".

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This morning I installed the floor battens, the next step in the order of business. I struggled a bit trying to come up with a good plan for getting these on. On the Zip, the battens are attached to the frames and the planking placed over them. On the Super Spartan you basically have to attach them directly to the bottom plank. Sounds simple and it is, but you also need to be able to work from both sides to spread glue and then get to the screws on the other side. You also need to make sure the battens stay in place and are not rigidly clamped so they can slide a bit to fit into the curve of the plank induced by the runner chines. To do this I made a small holding fixture from some scrap wood. The fixture's purpose was to hold the forward end of the batten in place and still allow the batten to move fore and aft while the anchor screw was set in the aft end and to allow some movement while the rest of the screws are set.

With the fixture in place and the forward end of the batten tucked in, I set the aft position and clamped it. Then a hole was drilled into the batten at the aft end from below for the anchor screw. Then I unclamped the batten and applied glue to the mating surfaces on the batten and plank. The batten was replaced into the fixture, reclamped at the aft end and the anchor screw set. The clamp was removed and the assembly inverted to set the rest of the attaching screws. I worked my way forward from the aft end to make sure the batten conformed to the curve in the bottom and there would be no bubbles in the plank as the batten was pulled down by the screws. The holes were drilled in to the battens through the predrilled holes in the bottom plank. The process was repeated for all three battens. Excess resin was cleaned up and the floor area got a partial incapsulation coat in the process.

Roberta :D :D :D :D :D

This is the simple holding fixture I made from a piece of scrap. It holds the batten in place, yet allows some movement as the batten is drawn down with the attachment screws.

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Here the aft end of the batten is shown clamped and will be drilled from below for the anchor screw. The aft end of the battens are cut at 15 degrees to allow the transom to but up against them. They are set 1 1/2" forward from the end of the plank to allow for the thickness of the transom material.

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The battens are all secured, the slop cleaned up, and the resin smoothed out.

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Roberta "Queen of the Boat Builders"
Built Zip "Oliver IV", Super Spartan "Jimmy 70", and Torpedo "The Glen L".

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The thought occurred to me today that you all might be thinking I'm building a stone boat. Looking at the bottom planking and the battens and runner chines, it does resemble one. Trust me it is a hydro!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Today I fit up the chines and frame two. A notch needs to be cut in the chines to allow the frame to pass through them. The notch is somewhat critical as the position needs to be precise so the frame fits snuggly and it doesn't throw off the positions of all the components since the frame nestles into the bottom plank and runner chines, so a little dry fitup is necessary.

Once the fitup was done, I checked the fit and positon for the side planks. The side planks get attached to the chines and the edges get beveled to match the bevel cut into the chine so the plank is flush with the bottom of the chine.

I marked off the screw hole positions on the side planks I cut earlier and drilled the holes. Then I clamped the chine to my work table to make sure they were straight and flat. When making these assemblies remember to make a left and a right one. Several locator holes were drilled in each chine so when I glued them up, I could easily secure them in the correct position. Once glued up and secured to the chines, I just needed to drill the rest of the holes into the chine and run in the screws. These will sit until the next work session when I will be able to sand the bevel in the planks so they are even with the bottom.

Roberta :D :D :D :D

This pic shows the joint where the frame, chine, and bottom all meet. The notch in the chine allows the chine to be positioned so the blocking on frame two lines up with the bevel on the chine so the side plank will fit properly.

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Another view of the frame and chine.

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Overview of the frame dry fitted into the chine. See!!! It's not a stone boat!! :D :D

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This is the layup of the chine and side plank. The corner of the side planks along the chines will be sanded flush to the bottom of the chines creating the bevel in the side plank.

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Roberta "Queen of the Boat Builders"
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Roberta,what is a stone boat????!!! :?: :?

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A stone boat is a craft made of wooden slats and steel runners, rectangular in shape, with a slightly upturned bow, and a tow chain attached to the bow. Farmers tow them around their fields with tractors after working the soil and workers pick up the stones turned up and toss them onto the stone boat for disposal. The rectangular shape and upturned bow my Super Spartan currently has is almost a spittin' image of one.

Roberta :D :D :D :D
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Built Zip "Oliver IV", Super Spartan "Jimmy 70", and Torpedo "The Glen L".

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Ok, got it now!!! Being from urban areas all my life, I never heard of them!! :shock: :D

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Today I beveled the side planks to the chines for the fit onto the bottom plank. Then I dry fitted the assemblies to the bottom and set the # 2 frame in to make sure everything fit properly, marked the location of the chines, and drill locator holes. Then I disassemled everything for glueing, applied the epoxy, reset the chines, and set the locator screws. Now I could flip the assembly over and drill and set the rest of the screws that hold the chines in place.

I really like building this boat. It is a lot of fun and would be a great project to share with kids. I like the fact that I can flip the build around and get at everything very easily. I also like that I can do this boat in the basement shop and not have to be heating the hangar.

Roberta :D :D :D :D :D

The corner of the side plank stood up past the beveled edge of the chine and needed to be beveled so the bottom of the chine would set flat on the bottom plank. My belt sander was perfect for getting a nice bevel and everything will sit perfectly. Sanding and beveling plywood is nice in that you know if the work is even and straight by the even lines of the plys sanded.

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Here the chine and plank are set on the bottom to mark and locator drill for glueing. The # 2 frame is also set to ensure everything engages properly.

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Here all the frames are set to check for proper fit before any holes are drilled. Once all marked and checked, the locator holes are drilled, glue applied, Locator screws set, then the assembly flipped to drill and set the remaining screws.

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The assembly has been glued and screwed while being leveled on my trusty seement blocks. Bottom area is nice and flat.

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Roberta "Queen of the Boat Builders"
Built Zip "Oliver IV", Super Spartan "Jimmy 70", and Torpedo "The Glen L".

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Are you kidding me??? Another one already??? I'm not surprised that a pilot is building something that looks like a little fighter jet.
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Upside down it kinda looks like something from Battlestar Galactica. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Whats taking so long, arent you done yet? :roll:

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Nice looking Roberta. I haven't touched the RV-10 airplane since I started on the Riviera. I just might have to change my moniker from airplane builder to boat builder!!

BTW, nice looking basement shop.....and big ol tubs of epoxy!! Reminds me of my first airplane build, wood, epoxy, more epxoy and cloth!!
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Give me another month, Chris. I think I can complete the structure by New Years Eve. 8) 8)

Thanks, Dana!! There's something about boat building and mahogany that is so addictive. I bought the big buckets of epoxy while doing the Zip. I started out with a smaller kit, but with the laminations I did , I knew I would need more. Then I got the frame kit for the Spartan at G4 from Jimmy 70, so I just ordered a 7.5 gallon kit so I would have enough to finish both. Don't let that 10 get too neglected. I want a ride in it. And the Riviera, too!! :D :D :D :D

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Built Zip "Oliver IV", Super Spartan "Jimmy 70", and Torpedo "The Glen L".

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