Utility build

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Re: Utility build

Postby hoodman » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:00 am

That is a classy little boat!

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Re: Utility build

Postby BarnacleMike » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:41 am

Thanks, guys!

I'm making some progress on installing my bilge pump. I've got the battery mount installed up forward, and I've also installed a small panel for the bilge pump switch underneath the rear starboard quarter knee.

As for the bilge pump itself, I plan to mount it to a flat plywood panel that will be removable. I'm planning to attach the panel to the side of the transom knee. What I have not decided on yet, is HOW to attach the bilge pump base to the plywood. I don't really want to use screws, since the plywood is only 1/4" thick. I'm concerned that small wood screws would pull out of such thin plywood fairly easily. I had considered simply gluing the base to the plywood with epoxy, but I'm not sure how well epoxy will bond plastic to wood (or paint, since I'll be painting the panel). I'd also considered using zip ties. Any ideas or suggestions?

Also, any ideas or suggestions for how to run wire in a little open boat like this in an aesthetic & discreet way?
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Removable panel for the bilge pump
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Panel for the bilge pump switch
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Mount for the battery box
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Re: Utility build

Postby Roberta » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:17 pm

Consider using blind nuts installed on the bottom side of the plywood mount. You could then grind the screws that mount the pump flush with the nuts. I think gluing the pump base might be an issue later.
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Re: Utility build

Postby gdcarpenter » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:14 pm

Hi Michael, almost there!

One suggestion for mounting the pump.

The thick piece of wood you have to connect to the transom knee, make it longer so it runs back to the transom. You could then use some pipe strap to secure the pump to the side of the block of wood.
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Re: Utility build

Postby mrintense » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:35 pm

Here is are a couple of suggestions for the wire, but please consider others as I am not sure these would even work out well. There are wire runners available for homes that can be mounted to the wall when you want to hide wiring that would otherwise run along the wall. They are made from pvc and are typically white. Not sure this would work or not because of the curves. it also may not be what you are after aesthetically. Another alternative is to add a small strip of wood offset from the transom, painted white of course. Place the wire behind it. Small pieces of wood to hold it away from the transom and still allow any water drainage.
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Re: Utility build

Postby vupilot » Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:09 pm

My pump base is just epoxied to the bottom of the boat and the pump snaps onto the base. 6 years. About 5,000 trailer miles. Epoxy bonds it well. My pump seems about half the size of yours. Ive used it once while trailering in rain and once after the big rain storm at the Gathering. What kind of conditions are you planning to go out in with that Utility!!! ;)

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Re: Utility build

Postby BarnacleMike » Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:16 pm

LOL that bilge pump... It was honestly a matter of time and place. I was at Academy Sports with my daughter, on the first weekend we took the boat out this year. We were picking up a few items for the trailer, and my daughter started chanting "buy a bilge pump! buy a bilge pump! Daddy, buy a bilge pump!" What dad could resist? Especially from an 11yr old skipper! I knew I wanted an automatic one, because I didn't want to install a float switch. That particular day, they happened to be out of stock on the small automatic pumps... so I got this one.
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Re: Utility build

Postby BarnacleMike » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:57 pm

Thank you for the suggestions on the bilge pump!

Another question: There is a ground wire that is part of the switch for the bilge pump. What should I ground it to? Aren't you supposed to ground things to something metal? (I know NOTHING about wiring... which is probably obvious. The only other thing I've wired, ever, was the trailer lights).
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Re: Utility build

Postby neel thompson » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:53 pm

Michael.... I used the same switch and the ground wire on the switch itself goes to the negative side of the battery. I think that is a ground for the small indicator lights on the switch panel. The pump should also have a ground wire, and that wire goes to the negative side of the battery as well. See you soon... Your boat looks great.... Neel

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Re: Utility build

Postby psychobilly » Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:47 pm

On the wire' you could get some wood maybe cut it say 1" wide and 3/4 thick then cut a 1/2" slot down the middle. Use a router to round off edges, seal channel with epoxy, and then epoxy to the place you want to hide wire. I reckon if you had to make turns I would leave the wire exposed so you could always replace wire unless you wanted to get fancy and cut sweeps.

As Carl mentioned there's the lil PVC cable straps but that takes screws. That's how I ran the wires in my skiff. Stainless screws and good marine wire of course.

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Re: Utility build

Postby BarnacleMike » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:38 pm

vupilot wrote:My pump base is just epoxied to the bottom of the boat and the pump snaps onto the base. 6 years. About 5,000 trailer miles. Epoxy bonds it well.


Well if epoxy worked for you, then it's good enough for me! I like the idea of it being simple, and strong. If something were to go wrong with the base, I could buy a replacement.

Neel, thank you for that clarification on the ground wire for the bilge pump switch. Thanks also for the suggestions on how to run the wire aesthetically. I just finished the removable bilge pump mount. I haven't yet started wiring anything, as I'm still varnishing the switch panel and the battery mount. I've also started varnishing the transom... I'm anxious to get her name decal put on.

I still haven't decided how many coats of varnish to put on everything. Right now, the deck is at 4 coats. I think I'd like it to have at least 7.
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-Michael

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Re: Utility build

Postby BarnacleMike » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:53 am

When I ran out of varnish, I decided that would be enough coats. 6 coats on the deck, seats, and quarter knees. 5 coats on the transom. 3 coats on the battery mount and switch panel.

Since I declared the varnishing "done," I let it sit for a couple of days. Then last night I put the name decal on the transom.
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Re: Utility build

Postby Bill Edmundson » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:01 pm

Mike

I'm not sure what putting the name on the boat really means. But, it feels good!

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Re: Utility build

Postby vupilot » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:13 pm

Does that mean its done! ?

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Re: Utility build

Postby Bill Edmundson » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:43 pm

I put the name on the boat awhile back. But, Lauren has take much more ownership of the boat with her name as part of the boat name! She's much more help!

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