Brendons Zip Build

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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby bjfrater » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:40 am

I got the chines on! I spent ages (3 hours) on the first one at the stem, then once I had the second one on I wasnt happy with the original so cut it off and did it again in about 15mins :D
I used the towels and boiling water to assist a bit and had some fun coming up with creative methods to hold the twist in the right location.
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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby bjfrater » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:58 am

I glued and screwed all but the transom yesterday. So today I cut the chines down and attached them.
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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby cusoak » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:18 am

So do you have any idea of how many hrs you have in you build to this point?.
I like your use of the weights to hold things in place.
I used wall paper steamer and pvc pipe to steam my chine and shear pieces.
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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby bjfrater » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:34 pm

I actually have no idea on the number of hours spent so far. Its been quite a few weekends and the odd evening. I intentionally havent been keeping track of it as I think the numbers will start to put pressure on me to get finished in the later stages.
I am keeping track of the costs and I have a folder of receipts that I will add up when I get to the end.

I have found those weights really useful throughout my build so far. They are getting more use now than they have had in ages :)

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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby SeaPea » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:23 pm

Looking good Brendon!

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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby Ranny » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:35 am

bjfrater wrote:I actually have no idea on the number of hours spent so far. Its been quite a few weekends and the odd evening. I intentionally havent been keeping track of it as I think the numbers will start to put pressure on me to get finished in the later stages.
I am keeping track of the costs and I have a folder of receipts that I will add up when I get to the end.

I have found those weights really useful throughout my build so far. They are getting more use now than they have had in ages :)


Note to self: Start body building, get weights, give up body building, store weights for future Zip:)
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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby mrintense » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:17 pm

Another item that works well are cinder blocks. They're cheap to buy and can be used in a variety of ways.
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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby Riff » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:46 pm

Looking good :D
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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby gdcarpenter » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:59 pm

Looking good. Nice to see that someone besides myself is going with 3 battens per side. Notice there are no notches for the battens in frame 5 1/2, I ran mine forward of 5 1/2 so it can be done.
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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby bjfrater » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:32 pm

Hi there, another update,
I am in the process of attaching the second lamination of the sheer on but also working on several other parts of the boat at the same time.

gdcarpenter wrote:Looking good. Nice to see that someone besides myself is going with 3 battens per side. Notice there are no notches for the battens in frame 5 1/2, I ran mine forward of 5 1/2 so it can be done.

I have also been fitting the battens, I had not considered going as far forward as frame 5.5 I might take a look at it tonight. It might be a no go as the timber for the battens that I have probably wont reach that far.

As well as all that I had a few moments of panic when I was looking things over. I think I have put a fraction too much twist in my chine and the side planking is not going to mate flush with it near the stem. It was actually a bit of a guess when I attached it since the sheers were not attached yet. I have made a shim that I will attach to the chine that I can shape to fit so it will be an easy fix that wont be visible. I have attached some pictures of the issue.
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The shim that I will glue on and then fair down to the correct shape

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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:33 pm

Looks about the same as my zip did at the time. Do you really need to shim?

You will be fairing the Sheer quite a bit and the chine less. It should all fall into place nicely.

I backed my chine with some 1/4 inch plywood.

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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby bjfrater » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:49 pm

Cabron wrote:Looks about the same as my zip did at the time. Do you really need to shim?

You will be fairing the Sheer quite a bit and the chine less. It should all fall into place nicely.

I backed my chine with some 1/4 inch plywood.


Thanks, it seems to be a common problem.
Im not 100% sure if i need the shim to be honest. I think it will mate with the side planking better. At the moment the planking would would actually sit inside the sheer completely if I follow the same line from the chine all the way to the sheer. I dont think it will be too much effort to add the shim, even if I end up fairing it off again once I get that far.

Its one of those things that I think will become clearer once I am working on it.

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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:25 am

I think you have the right approach Brendon. Whatever works is the way to do it.

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Re: Brendons Zip Build

Postby Andy Garrett » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:32 pm

I had to build up my chines there too.

If I were to build another boat, I would set the sheers first. Then I would stretch a line between the stem/keel before I set the chine to make sure I put enough bow in it by choosing the right mounting spot on the stem rather than the spot that the chines naturally want to bend to.
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