Zip Gentlemans Racer

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Borbetti
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Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Borbetti » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:49 am

Dear Forum

I have been, as many, lurking around the forum for years and I feel that I should show you what I have managed to come up with by following some incredible builds and applying the various elements from those builds and coming up with what you see.

I started this build about six years ago and have started and stopped many times. Within those six years I have managed to build another wooden boat, a 20ft Atchafalaya Lake Skiff, while still working sparingly on the Zip. I have modified the Zip to emulate the gentleman's racers from the golden age of boating. I have moved the cockpit to the rear and what you cannot see yet is the rumble seat that will be forward. The power is a 1958 Mercury Mark 58A 45hp. The steering is a rack teleflex system. All of the wood frames are mahoghany and the plywood is Okume. I have a 12 gallon tank that sits up front along with the battery to offset the rear steering position. I do have some early build pictures but for some reason I have not figured out how to post them. Still working on it. I still have to apply paint and the mahoghany to the top and of course varnish.

Lastly I would like to thank Glen-L and all of you for your post and experience. Without you people like me would not be able to share in the enjoyment of making boats and the memories that go along with doing so.

Cheers,

Carmine
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Borbetti » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:24 pm

More pictures
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Borbetti » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:48 pm

Here are some additional pictures
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Borbetti » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:47 pm

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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby gdcarpenter » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:29 pm

Love It, Love It, Love It!

We're I ever to build another boat, and looking back if I had seriously considered it, I would not hesitate a moment to build one similar.

Not to be picky but if that's a Mark58A ( and it sure looks like one) then it is a 1959 model. 1959 was the 20th anniversary for Mercury/Kiekhaefer and all models had the "A" suffix. The 1958 Mark58 was the first production run of the 44 cu. in. engines and had the "Turtle Top", I am currently restoring one for my ZIP.

My ZIP runs 30 MPH @ 5,600 RPM with a 35 HP Mark35A so you could likely get around the 35 MPH.

Thanks for sharing, even if it's at such a late date.
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Borbetti » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:58 pm

I figured out how to add some early pictures
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Borbetti » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:09 pm

Here is my skiff that I built. Use it every week.

gdcarpenter, I have admired your build and your restoration of your merc. I have seen you out there on johnsoldmercurysite.com. I anticipate that 35mph would be about what I would get.
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby travis24 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:42 pm

Excellent job on both. Skiff turned out Really Nice. Interested to see your finished custom zip. Pics look great. Where are you located? On those controls you have , not sure your background with the classics but look around for the single lever type that controls both they work much better. As you know any questions just ask.

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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby mrintense » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:49 pm

Carmine, very nice work on both boats. Two at once, man I wonder how people can do that. Mine takes all my free time. I can't even imagine doing a second one at the same time.

Anyway the skiff looks gorgeous and the zip will be really sweet when finished as well. Congratulations on two fine builds.
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Borbetti » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:00 pm

Travis24... I am located in Slidell La. Just north of New Orleans. I purchased the engine with controls several years ago from a gentleman who was looking to upgrade his boat to a 4 stroke. The motor was from Idaho and has very little time on it. The motor runs like a top. Thanks for the heads up on the controls.

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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Lowka53 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:01 pm

8) you are not far from my brother he lives in Manderville La :wink: he has done several builds in the past but strictly sail
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you might of seen this one he used to sail it on the lake
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby cusoak » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:23 am

Great looking boats. nice job on the Skiff. Is It a Glen L design.
Also how many people will be able to set up front
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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby travis24 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:10 am

Carmine,

Here are a few pics of the controls I'm talking about. Just a suggestion.

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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Andy Garrett » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:28 am

I REALLY like the gentleman's racer look for the Zip. It really elongates the already sexy lines--nice choice. I would have done the same on mine had it been even a tiny bit practical. If a Zip hull ever shows up for sale, I will consider it for just this purpose.

As for your controls, I almost went with a two lever type just for the nostalgia of it. I for one like the choice, but a single lever is indeed simpler.

The skiff is well made as well, but the Zip holds a special place in my heart. I can't wait to see it complete. Please tell me you will put a racing number on it!
Andy Garrett

Perhaps the slowest Zip build in Glen-L history...

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Re: Zip Gentlemans Racer

Postby Borbetti » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:40 pm

Cusoak...the skiff is not a Glen-L design. It is a native boat to southern Louisiana (Atchafalaya Lake Skiff) one can build at the Lake Pontchartrain Maritime Museum in Madisonville La. They offer classes to build these.

The rumble seat will fit two kids or one adult. I have a family of three and this configuration works great for us.

Here are a few pictures I took earlier today when I flipped it back over so that I can install the skeg and start on prime and paint.
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