Zip plans????

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Zip plans????

Postby dcarbone » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:40 am

So I started building my zip and got frame 4 done but when I started building frame 2 I noticed that my plans are all smaller by an inch and a half to the actual measurement they are suppose to be has anyone else noticed this should I just keep tracing the plans I have ? Or should I contCt them to send me accurate plans to trace which would stink since I already started cutting and assembling the frames

Thanks -dan

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Roberta
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Re: Zip plans????

Postby Roberta » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:36 pm

Welcome to the forum. Where are you experiencing a discrepancy? There have been many Zips built with no issues. Pictures would help.

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby dcarbone » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:40 pm

Hi Roberta

I've started building the frames and put all of frame 4 together but when I looked at the plans it says the strong back should be 34 1/4 to the center of you measure this out on the patterns in the plans it only measures 33 3/4

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby Roberta » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:52 pm

There is the thickness of the planking that will be added to the overall width and the beveled edge of the planking will be greater than 1/4".

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby dcarbone » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:55 pm

this is what im referring too so this measurement is with the planking

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby dcarbone » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:01 pm

sorry I cant get the pics to load

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby dcarbone » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:07 pm

ok I understand it now lol thanks for the help

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby Bill Edmundson » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:11 pm

First. I don't know if your plans are copied on "Blueline Paper". Glen-L used this for many years. This a slightly blue paper with darker blue lines. This method of coping stretches the paper a bit in the process. Measurements on the blueline will vary from the written dimension.

Second. If you use the patterns or the dimensions you will be fine, as long as you are consistent.

You are going to "fair" the frames later. That is trim to shape. Your fine.

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby dcarbone » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:15 pm

Thanks Bill I just wanted to make sure before I kept building I have the copied plans that's why I was unsure as well as you said it can stretch but now that I realized its measuring with the planking it all makes sense I cant believe I didn't pick up on that but now I know the beauty of this forum
I will be posting as I go in this build thanks again for the help -

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby Roberta » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:41 pm

Glad you got it sorted out!!

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epoxy

Postby dcarbone » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:57 am

I was just wondering on everyone's method of encapsulating are you finishing the wood then encapsulating it or just letting the epoxy kind of be the finish I was just curious seems like all the photos I look at especially the side planking that you just encapsulate it than fiber glass and not staining it first or am I just seeing it wrong lol
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Re: Zip plans????

Postby BarnacleMike » Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:14 pm

Dan, you can do it either way.

For my part, I did not stain the plywood on my transom, which I intend to leave bright-finished. So far, I'm happy with the way it looks just under the epoxy and fiberglass cloth. This is Meranti plywood:

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Re: Zip plans????

Postby dcarbone » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:01 pm

Ok that's what I figured thanks for the pic that looks great nice job hopfully I can get mine that good when I get to that point hopfully soon


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