Ohio squirt build

Outboard designs up to 14'

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby BayouBengal » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:33 am

Here's another picture showing the breasthook block, once again, it ain't pretty. If were to do this again, I would have set the breasthook block a little closer to the building form so that the nose of the breasthook extended past the block. I remember in the building process that having the block right up against the shear resulted in the block being in the way for fairing and other building processes.

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:45 am

Thanks Bayou. That helped a lot. I had been looking at pics of setups and could not find anything . I found pics but not good pics of the form. Thats just what i needed. Im stretching mine out to 11' . I almost started to build the form last night but i thought id ask for help. Im glad i did.
Thanks again

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:38 pm

Here is what i got done today. Now we are getting somewhere. Thanks for all the help, couldn't have gotten this far without all of you. Thanks again
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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby BayouBengal » Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:45 pm

Wow! You work fast. Looking great!

Ok, now it's time for a question for you. Where are the pics of the vintage cherry F100 that will be towing this boat?

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:49 pm

Ha ha . I had a 1956 F100 . Spent 5 years restoring it and sold it at the first cruise in i took it to. Wish id kept it. Young and dumb i guess. Actually ill be pulling it behind a Ford Ranger . I like my Fords.

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:06 pm

I am starting to see how it all goes together now. Made a world of difference putting it on the frame buck / form .
Off to get more lumber tomorrow afternoon. I think i found a new hobby. I do a lot of woodworking but this is really a lot of fun once you figure it out. Im sure there will be more questions i will have. :D :D
I ended up going 19" wide on the form. Seemed to work out that way because thats all the 2x4 mayerial i had. I still need to add on to it for the breasthook but its sturdy as heck. Ill bolt it down to the floor tomorrow. After i move a few things around. Its a 10x20 building im working in so i am a bit cramped with the boat in there. Gotta rearrange a few things to make it work. I built a set of kitchen cabinets in there a few months back and i had stuff stacked everywhere. One day ill build a big polebarn but for now the little 10x20 serves me well.
Again thanks for the help.

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:28 pm

Here is my first attempt to help others that may be considering doing this hopefullt the pics may help someone to construct a form. It it 30" tall x 19" wide on the top rails.
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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:39 pm

Is a 25 hp. Outboard too much for the squirt? Or maybe a 30 hp?

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby BayouBengal » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:17 am

I'm going to suggest that you add to your gusset on frame 1. As Barnacle Mike pointed out in an earlier post, the patterns show only 1/2 of the bottom member, but it is intended that the member be made as one piece using the pattern as mirror images. I don't see a structural problem with making it in two pieces with a gusset attaching the two, but you need a much larger gusset. If the small center gusset you have is only temporarily screwed on at the moment, remove it and make a larger one. If it's glued on both sides, you should consider consider cutting it off. It looks to me as though you only have the gusset on the aft side. Don't worry, this will not show in the final build because it will be under the seat.

If you can put the larger gusset on both sides, you might could use 1/4" PW. If only on the forward side because the present one on the aft side is glue and you don't want to cut it off, I'd go with 3/4". You can use a flush cut router bit to quickly cut the gusset so that it matches your frame exactly.
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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby mrintense » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:47 am

One thing I would definitely recommend if you haven't already acquired it is the "Boatbuilding With Plywood" book by Glen L Witt, available from Glen L. This is a must have book and covers nearly all the questions you might have.
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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:15 am

Good suggestion Bayou. Ill use 3/4 plywood on both sides. I dont want it to break in half. Thatd be bad

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby BarnacleMike » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:01 am

Fordf100 wrote:Is a 25 hp. Outboard too much for the squirt? Or maybe a 30 hp?


The Squirt is rated for a max. of 10 hp. Since you're building it to 11 ft, a little extra horsepower might be beneficial. Personally, I wouldn't put anything larger than a 15hp on it.
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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:53 pm

Looks like im going to go with a 20 hp. Evinrude. Got a friend who has a short shaft that runs good for $300.

Anyway, here is another question. Imagine that, another question. When installing the sheer does it sit flush with the top side of the breasthook top plate ( or the way it is currently sitting on the form the bottom side of the breasthook top plate)? I got all of that stuff cut out tonite , chines, sheers, ect. I was kinda laying that out and not sure of the proper position either the top or the bottom of the plate.

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby BayouBengal » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:16 pm

Don't really know what you're asking, but here's pictures of mine. The shear on the squirt is a very tough bend and I broke a couple. I did it in two laminations, but if doing it again I'd either prebend in a steam box or do it in three laminations. The sound of crack when bending a board is quite frustrating and I hope you don't have to hear it. The first two pictures are the first lamination, the last picture is the second lamination

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Re: Ohio squirt build

Postby Fordf100 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:55 pm

Thanks for the pics Bayou. Answeted my question. Ill be laminating it but i stuck one one just to see how it would do and it bent great with no cracking or anything. Hopefully the rest will do the same. If so ill buy me a lottery ticket too. Ha ha, looks to me like the chinrs arr gonna be the real pain. With that bend and twist, that scares me. I still have to reinforce that frame tomorrow with 3/4 plywood. I didnt forget it just got sidetracked.
Thanks again you have been a great help. I appreciate it.


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