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Re: Fisherman

Post by hoodman » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:24 pm

Nice job! Great to have that hull planking on. It'll float now!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:36 am

Thanks Michael and Matt. Currently on a little family vacation...good time to start reading about fiberglassing!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:00 am

I am currently working through sanding my fillings. I am using orbital palm sander with 120 grit. It’s requiring what seems like a lot of sanding to get excess off. I don’t mind if marks show as I will be painting. Just trying to access how muc sanding is enough. Feels like I am making a mess and definitely want to avoid creating new problems by over sanding. Is there a better technique or different grit I should be using? Thanks.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by JimmY » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:44 am

I would recommend using a lower grit (60) to knock down the majority of the filler, and then use a hard backed sanding block or long board to do the final leveling. With the random orbital sander (ROS) you risk digging into the plywood around the filler and creating a low spot. Using a sanding block or long board, in various directions, you reduce that risk and have a little more control.

Also depending on your type of filler, make sure it is fully cured or it may continue shrink after you have sanded and create a low spot. I've seen this on the bottom of my boat even when using Epoxy and micro-balloons.

We're all looking for an easier, better way to sand, but sometimes you just need some elbow grease. Paint will not level or hide poor surface preparation underneath it and marine paint is expensive. So, make sure your hull is really ready to go before you start painting. We've all been there and know what you are going through!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:56 am

Thank you very much...really appreciate the tips. I am using quick fair. I am already seeing multiple rounds of fill and sand. And the dings and low spots are my greatest fear. I'll get some blocks to use and take my time. Thanks again.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:20 pm

small dilemma on transom. hoping I can get some tips.

regrettably I used some lower quality ply on my final lamination and as I am sanding the fill holes, I am ending up with a less than smooth surface.

So...I am thinking through my options:
1) I could try to fair in with quick fair. bit concerned with it getting tricky and ending up with new problem as I sand.
2) add another lamination of the 1/4 inch okume
3) do nothing...live with it.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by hoodman » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:46 pm

What exactly do you mean by "less than smooth?" Do you mean wavy? It could be that your sander is following the grain of the wood and sanding the softer grain faster than the harder grain. That can happen with steeple grain.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:41 pm

Yes. That is exactly what happened. :? I’m staring at it now. Not sure there is a better option than laminating another piece of ply on. I saw some people using staples to hold the lamination on. Not sure putting another set of screws into transom is a good idea. What type of staple gun to use? I would lapping the outside of planking and sheer. Any issues with this? I would not think so since it’ll be glassed over. Ugh!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:22 pm

Well... I gave quick fair a try. It definitely took to low spots. I’ll see how it stands out.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:48 am

I think this is going to work just fine. I thought would make a mess with this approach. Quick fair worked well. Easy to use. Thanks again Matt.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by hoodman » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:34 pm

Yeah the fairing compound is a good solution. I like that better than going to the trouble of doing another lamination of plywood.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by Biss » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:23 am

Been awhile since I checked in on this one. It is really comming along. Your planking looks really good. On my boat I have a painted hull so I used fairing compound (Totalfair) all over it! That stuff works great. Keep posting pics, we all like to see the progress!

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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:06 pm

Thank you. Will do. Words of encouragement are always welcome. This has been quite the journey. Lots of learning around every corner!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:22 am

Its been a while since posting updates. Thought I would just share some photos of what it looked like pre-fiber glass and now with some glass on it. Hope to have fiber glassing done next week. I found some help for the fiber glass job. I'm sure I could have hacked through it...but helper is awesome at it and fun to watch him work.

In pre-photos you can see the fill work, the amount of radius I put on, and the area I flattened out for the keel. These were the main components I can think of that took some time to complete. The fill work took much longer than I had envisioned. Straight forward, just time consuming.

Regarding glass. We are using Silver Tip with 4 oz + 6 oz cloth for a total of 10 oz. I know many folks say it just adds unnecessary weight, but this boat will see some abuse in the marsh so I hope it provides a little extra protection. My friend helping me wet out both layers of cloth at the same time. Again, watching a skilled worker is always fun. Don't think I would have tried two at a time myself.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:25 am

Glad I put the tent up...fiber glass work is indeed messy.
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