malahini trailer?

Boat trailers and trailering

Moderator: ttownshaw

bige13
Posts: 29
Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:41 pm
Location: Shawnee, Ks

malahini trailer?

Postby bige13 » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:05 pm

i have re done an old trailer form an old arrow glass but when i finally got my boat on it, it seams really high. dose this look ok? do you think i need to get a lower trailer... also to you think i will be able to pull this set up with a V4 1999 ford ranger 2wd?
Attachments
IMG_0859.JPG
IMG_1191.JPG
IMG_1196.JPG

Trackhappy
Posts: 1411
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:42 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. Building Gentry.

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby Trackhappy » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:49 pm

It looks like the springs are sitting on top of the axle. You can move them underneath so they hang off the ubolts rather than sitting on top. That would drop her about 4 inches at a guess.
By the time I have built a boat, I'll be ready to build a boat....

User avatar
jeffh
Posts: 1520
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:34 am
Location: ATL Burbs and Lake Chatuge, GA

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby jeffh » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:36 pm

I'm not sure about the height. Mine does sit lower, but does it matter...? What sticks out in my mind is the boat sticks out off the back of the trailer a lot more than mine. I would definitely put something under the back when you have the engine mounted to keep it from tipping. As for your towing capacity, it will probably tow it, but is the Gross rating greater than the weight of the truck, contents and boat?

I posted a few photos for reference.
Attachments
DSC_0541.JPG
DSC_0066.JPG
DSC_0433.JPG
2011 MALAHINI - KICKED IN THE HEAD
Image
I wake up with a 16ft woody every morning :)
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534DBtp1Cnc
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/2011malahini/

User avatar
jeffh
Posts: 1520
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:34 am
Location: ATL Burbs and Lake Chatuge, GA

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby jeffh » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:38 pm

One more:
Attachments
DSC_0124.JPG
2011 MALAHINI - KICKED IN THE HEAD
Image
I wake up with a 16ft woody every morning :)
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534DBtp1Cnc
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/2011malahini/

User avatar
vupilot
Posts: 3313
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:36 am
Location: Indy
Contact:

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby vupilot » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:16 am

Looks like that trailer is narrow enough that the boat has to ride above the fenders, correct?

I had a 97 Ranger 4 cyl truck when I built my Zip. I towed it around town to the upholstery shop with that truck but never towed it to the lake with it. It couldnt accelerate and go uphill at the same time pulling it around town so I never wanted to attempt to pull it out of the water with that truck.

bige13
Posts: 29
Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:41 pm
Location: Shawnee, Ks

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby bige13 » Sat May 04, 2013 12:32 pm

do you think a 6 cylinder ranger could effectively pull my boat in and out of the water and 13 hr driver to the lake house????

User avatar
jeffh
Posts: 1520
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:34 am
Location: ATL Burbs and Lake Chatuge, GA

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby jeffh » Sat May 04, 2013 2:29 pm

These boats and trailers are not that heavy. A 6-cylinder engine is a much better choice than a 4-cyl. I think you'll have to really baby your transmission though. Especially on a 13hr tow. I'd definitely make sure I had a proper tranny cooler. Your trailer tires will need to be properly maintained also. If you have not bought new tires, I highly recommend that you do. I've seen what can happen when aged trailer tires blow. Even though my trailer was a brand new trailer, I still bought new tires. It was a 2006 trailer that was bought from a closed boat manufacturer and it had sat stacked on top of other trailers until 2011. If you properly balance the weight between the truck and trailer, you'll also have better results.
2011 MALAHINI - KICKED IN THE HEAD
Image
I wake up with a 16ft woody every morning :)
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534DBtp1Cnc
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/2011malahini/

User avatar
vupilot
Posts: 3313
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:36 am
Location: Indy
Contact:

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby vupilot » Sat May 04, 2013 2:48 pm

Todd B tows his Zip with a 4cyl Honda CRV and it does fine, much better than my 4 cyl Ranger, I rode to the lake with him once with 3 of us in the CRV and the boat in tow. So some 4cyl vehicles seem to do fine. A 6 cyl will be plenty, especially out there in Kansas. I now tow with a 11 Ford Escape 6cyl AWD and its a perfect match with the Zip. Still gets 24mpg highway with the boat in tow.

User avatar
jeffh
Posts: 1520
Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:34 am
Location: ATL Burbs and Lake Chatuge, GA

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby jeffh » Sat May 04, 2013 3:32 pm

No offense to those who use 4-cylinders to tow, but I would never tow a boat or camper with anything less than a 6-cylinder (popups not included). That is just me and I'm set in my ways. I know others will chime in with their own experience and opinions on this. I was towing a tandem axle camping trailer way before I had a boat and it was fine with a V6 but much much better with a V8. You have to realize that the tow rating includes everything, not just the boat. You also have to consider the other people driving on the highway with you. On camping forums there are a LOT of very outspoken but knowledgeable people when it comes to towing. I got a good education on towing from those people and it has served me well. My boat stays at the lake and I don't really tow it now. But, I have very strict guidelines I follow and that includes checking the lug nuts with a torque wrench and as I said before inspecting the wheel bearings and tires and making sure they are properly inflated. I never drove a CRV, but I did drive a RAV4 and I have to say it was weak on power. The folks I sold my tandem axle StarCraft camper to lived in Ontario. They towed it with a Honda minivan. I included a weight distributing hitch and they had to adjust it so that the weight was a bit more on the trailer tires. Before they got through North Carolina, they had four blowouts, no lie. I know a truck is sprung differently than a minivan and definitely more suitable for towing, but you can get yourself into serious trouble towing if you are not careful.
2011 MALAHINI - KICKED IN THE HEAD
Image
I wake up with a 16ft woody every morning :)
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534DBtp1Cnc
Website: https://sites.google.com/site/2011malahini/

matt167
Posts: 157
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:03 am
Location: Prattsville Ny

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby matt167 » Sat May 04, 2013 5:30 pm

Years ago, my dad towed his 1973 Starcraft Chieftan 21' with his 1993 Nissan hardbody 4cyl, 5spd single cab pickup. It looked like the boat was pushing the truck but with the class 3 bumper installed it was weighed and verified legal ( no fuel or equipment at that time tho ) Truck towed that boat hundreds of miles every summer for a couple years with no issue, even thru a 60 MPH wind storm, tho we did seek cover behind a Walmart when we located it... He actually 'upgraded' to a one year old 1994 Dodge single cab, 5spd 3.8 V6 1500 and it was a total dog compared to the Nissan, and then upgraded again to a 1997 Ford F-150 with the 4.6 and tow pkg..

That said, I owned a 1998 Ford Ranger 2.5 4cyl/ 5spd and I'm not sure I would put anything behind it. They are only rated for 1,500 LBS but also the 2.5L is a bored out Pinto motor. I got 27 MPG with mine but it had 'adaquate' power at best.

bige13
Posts: 29
Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:41 pm
Location: Shawnee, Ks

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby bige13 » Sat May 04, 2013 10:04 pm

what is the difference between (payload) and (towing capacity)?

matt167
Posts: 157
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:03 am
Location: Prattsville Ny

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby matt167 » Sun May 05, 2013 7:21 pm

bige13 wrote:what is the difference between (payload) and (towing capacity)?


Towing has to do with your gross combined vehicle weight rating, so that is your vehicles weight + payload ( onboard vehicle including passangers and fuel ) and the trailer weight. Usually you take your GCVWR ( gross combined ) and subtract your GVWR ( Gross vehicle ) to get your tow capacity. Manufactures usually list a specific tow capacity on most tow rated vehicles, but if not you just need the GVWR and GCVWR to get the info... Also have to subtract the vehicles payload that trip from the towing capacity as the weights are spec'd empty

bige13
Posts: 29
Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:41 pm
Location: Shawnee, Ks

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby bige13 » Mon May 06, 2013 6:15 pm

is there an easy way to find the weight of my boat?

User avatar
Lowka53
Posts: 1938
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 11:47 pm
Location: Ogden, Utah-Jubilee build
Contact:

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby Lowka53 » Mon May 06, 2013 6:18 pm

bige13 wrote:is there an easy way to find the weight of my boat?
is the boat on a trailer or off if off weigh empty trailer than place boat on trailer then reweigh and subtract empty trailer weight from weight with the boat
Don't be afraid to attempt anything. You might surprise your self in the attempt.
http://www.facebook.com/Home.Made.Boat.Building
Bon Voyage-"Wild Flower" 40' house boat being built
14' Mr John-being built
32' Supper Huck-in design

Rod H

User avatar
vupilot
Posts: 3313
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:36 am
Location: Indy
Contact:

Re: malahini trailer?

Postby vupilot » Mon May 06, 2013 7:30 pm

Ray Macke has a really clever way of weighing just your boat while its still on the trailer using bathroom scale. Really neat and its pretty accurate. Read how on his website, link below.
http://www.egyptian.net/~raymacke/Weigh.html


Return to “Trailers and trailering”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests