I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

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You should consider 5000 series aluminum, that is the marine grade.

I got some 6061 in my build and it is corroding.
Oak is over rated, everything about it takes extra time; then it warps, splits or checks !!! :roll:

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Ken

Thanks. Your in put is always wanted.

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I got the best deal on SS at West Marine if you ask them they can ship to your local store free. My store didn't tell me that but the Pensacola store did . I ask the Fort Walton Beach store when we redid INNOCENCE they shipped it in on there truck from the main warehouse I think N.C. took about a week or so. I used 3/4 on the little blue CC , INNOCENCE has 1"

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Hi Bill- I bought my ss strip for my Gentry from these guys. less expensive and we worked out a good shipping detail (they cut it down to fit max shipping size).

http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse. ... ,5911.html

or

http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse. ... ,5912.html

$45 from Hamilton and $113 from West Marine (before shipping) for the 12' lengths.
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I've bought a lot of things from Hamilton! They have quality stuff and they are often 20 to 30% less. Certainly a recommended source.

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just a question,
what happens to hollow back if you bang the dock,, does it leave a dent??
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it would depend on how hard you hit the dock.
the solid back would definitely take a bigger hit than the hollow back ,easier to dent the alloy!
Where my rubrail will go on the rub strake I rounded it to suit the hollow back rubrail and also the sheer is slightly rounded ,could flatten it to take the solid back ,but the hollow back seems to be a better fit.

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I have hollow back SS rub rail on my Zip and the Super Spartan and have banged it up many times with no denting problems. I plan on using it on the Torpedo.

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the greater problem with the hollow back SS is, if you do cream the dock and you have not profiled the wood to match the contour of the hollow, you can cut into the hull or finish pretty badly. most restorers of the classic boats that use the hollow back make a profiled filler strip to prevent the rubrail edges from cutting in to the hull.
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Bill .. your build is looking great...I have been thinking of spray rails on my build ..I see were some are used and others never put them on...I think it will be after the boat gets wet and see how it runs... I am glad some warm weather is back in the south ...!!
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Billy is right about the hollow back cutting into the hull.

Kelly Spray rails don't really help much with turning. They deflect water outward(spray) and help keep you drier. They also give the boat a little more lift. They're marked as optional. I don't agree. Put them on.

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I do like to radius the area where the rails are attached around the bow and on bumpers. You really need to radius that area anyway or the screws will pull the rail in causing an irregular appearance. I think the hollow back bend easier to conform to hull shapes, but will kink if worked improperly.

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Isn't the solid s-steel 1/2 rubrail available any more? It was the staple rubrail in the late 50's and 60's.

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Solid rub-rail is available. But, it's much more expensive. Aluminum is extruded and has smoother edges. SS starts as bar stock and is rolled to shape has sharp edges. I'm not sure how solid SS is made. It's probably a rolling process and the edges aren't as sharp.

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Still working. These are toe-rails for the deck, just above the rub-rails. that's just under 70 shaped and glued pieces. I'll epoxy the bottom side before I mount them.

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