I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:35 am

North

Top picture shows the basic shape of the well. The bulge is for the engine cowling which swings wider than the well width.

The second picture is from the back. The top edge and front corners are framed with 1x2s. The inside lower edge and rear corners are doubled 3/8 ply to make 3/4 to match the well wall thickness.

The third picture is the front. You can see the 3/8 x 2 1/2 skirt that laps the well.

All ply is 3/8. I trimmed the top with outside corner mold to cover the plywood edge and add 1/8 lip around top to match the planking thickness.

To modify it, I add 1x3 to the lower inside. I cut 3/8 ply x 2 1/2 to extend the skirt.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby North » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:18 am

Hi Bill - thanks for the additional pics and material specs!

what about finishing / sealing inside and out? Did you use primer/ paint products alone, or coat with epoxy and then paint?

I like the look and shape of the side - do you think the the protruding shape of the sides adds to strength much overall? ie. would it be stronger than completely straight sides? i realize you needed clearance in those areas and I am wondering about doing the same vs just having it a bit larger but with straight sides...

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:32 am

North

I wanted the well as narrow as possible to give more planning area on the bottom. The box also take a good bit of the cockpit. this shape gives me a little more walk around space. The shape may give some extra strength, I'm not sure.

I used an oil based sealer and Pettit primer & topside. The decking has 3 coats of epoxy and then high build varnish.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby North » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:35 pm

thanks for the details!

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:45 am

I have started changing the plug. I've made the cuts. Now I have to remove 3/4" of the foam. Then reframe it and glass and paint!

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby hoodman » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:52 pm

That's some delicate surgery, Bill. What is the actual purpose of the plug? I understand where it goes and that it flips up when the motor trims. Is it to increase the planing surface?

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:50 pm

Matt

The plug does 2 things. As you said it increases the planing surface. The back of the well is vertical. the front of the plug is sloped to give a clean water entry. It is foam filled to assure that it will always add buoyancy, ie. it can't fill with water. It doesn't move during normal running, trimming. I can fold it all the way up to tilt the engine almost clear of the bottom.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:01 pm

Foam cut out and new ply dry fit.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby hoodman » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:16 pm

Bill you got skills

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:06 am

Replacing the foam I had to cut out.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Butch Barto » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:11 pm

Hay Bill Hope You and Luran had a great time over on the East Coast . Looking forward to G 11 With everyone . Sad to say Innocence has not been in the water in a wile . Life seems to be interfering with fun. The weather has been great down here on the Gulf Coast. We have had other things going on Cant wait for G 11 it has become our best event of the year.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:59 am

Now if it will just fit back in the hole!

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:24 am

Well, I got the plug back in. I set the hinge a little wrong, Maybe 1/16" to 1/8". I'll live with it. It's less than a screw diameter off. the plug doesn't sit just right. Won't affect performance. I'll live with it. I got the engine cover back in also.

I got the galley drawer in. The shelves under the sink are a PITA. I'll get there. This was caused because I rushed to just get it to G-10.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby chugalug » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:05 am

:D What are you using for Porta-potti,Bill?I've been experamenting with wood pellets (compressed sawdust) from pellet stove.#1 in a coffee can ,half full of pellets,sounds gross,but still smells like wood pellets after a week of occasional whizzing. :roll:
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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:14 am

Chug

I've got an electric head and holding tank. We haven't used it yet. On the Mardi Gras floats, they use a 5 gal. bucket and kitty litter.

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