I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby kens » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:39 pm

That is a cool boat, Bill.
Oak is over rated, everything about it takes extra time; then it warps, splits or checks !!! :roll:

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Bill Edmundson » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:46 pm

Dave

After I encounter a few flying bridge sport fishermen, I wanted something up to 4' wakes. This thing sea trialed in 15 to 25 foot breakers.

Right now, her name is "Frances (Blue Butterfly) Lauren". My mother died in June 2010. Her estate will pay for it. I told you the Butterfly story. The Lauren...

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Oyster » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:55 pm

Okeedokie, now we are talking.. Have you gotten the well area figured out?

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby DaveLott » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:01 pm

Bill Edmundson wrote:Dave

After I encounter a few flying bridge sport fishermen, I wanted something up to 4' wakes. This thing sea trialed in 15 to 25 foot breakers.

Right now, her name is "Frances (Blue Butterfly) Lauren". My mother died in June 2010. Her estate will pay for it. I told you the Butterfly story. The Lauren...

Bill



Fantastic - I suspect she is smiling down on you right now.
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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Bill Edmundson » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:10 pm

Mike

I think I've got the well. With the engine down I can make lock to lock, I can tilt normal trim and I can tilt all the way up to clear the bottom. This boat has a fold down plug that fills part of the well when running. This increases the planning area.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby leakcheck » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:59 pm

That's an ugly boat ! Good thing you have a good looking wife to compensate for it ! :roll:

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Grand Chillin » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:23 pm

Man, I was scared to check out this thread after reading it's title. :shock: Bill just don't open that other door. :roll: :wink: :lol: Thanks for sharing. That is a cool boat. 8)
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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Oyster » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:31 am

Bill Edmundson wrote:Mike

I think I've got the well. With the engine down I can make lock to lock, I can tilt normal trim and I can tilt all the way up to clear the bottom. This boat has a fold down plug that fills part of the well when running. This increases the planning area.

Bill

I have not seen the plans with the setup. But a raw and blunt edge of the filler may not be the best. I would think that the style that leans towards that would catch and throw water straight up too or even be ripped off of the brackets when it gets rough and catches the water. Do you have a scan or something showing the leading edge?

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Bill Edmundson » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:45 am

The plug is somewhat of a box which goes from the bottom to the waterline and is foam filled. The leading edge is about 30 degrees to the bottom.

I'll see if I can get the scan to post.

Bill

Click the drawing. The green box behind the engine is the plug.
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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Oyster » Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:59 am

Bump! Upates?

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Bill Edmundson » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:09 am

:lol: Well... I layed the keel last weekend. And I have started the frame to frame filler pieces which support the self bailng deck. I'm putting those in to stablize the frame spacing before I do the chine. I hope to work on the chines next weekend.

This weekend I'm away for the build and I'm going to play with the Tahoe.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Bill Edmundson » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:55 am

Been kinda slow going with traveling/work and time playing with the Tahoe.

The chine is 7/8" x 2 3/8" white oak. It really did not want to take this bend. I'm still working on it. This weekend I'll steam it all again to try to stess releave it some more.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Roberta » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:44 am

Looking Great, Bill!!! Isn't it amazing how creative we get when we need to accomplish something!! That's the fun and what keeps us going.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby DaveLott » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:30 am

Dang - I wish I was back in the shop building like that. :mrgreen:
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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Oyster » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:56 am

Of course you do know that if you just rip the hard ends into smaller strips and reglue them, that the chines are still sound and structual even if you do this at the ends. I cut a small angle say five degrees on the slices and this allows the chines to go back together locking the strips in place until he glue takes up. I place a waxed paper or plastic tape strip across the faces as I rebend them and clamp them across the tops and bottoms so they do not pop back up as I bend them in place. Of course the thickened glue needs to be more than a slurry mix so that it stays put. This is my well boat with the wharped bottom.

Generally speaking even though this may not apply to what you end up with, the shape will be a bit rounder than a forced and targetted heated board thats too big for the continous bend and curve that the wider plywood planking takes too. So be mindfull not to create a flat spot when you plank the sides if the chines are not uniform in their curves. Some can also be pulled out too depending on the thickness of the sides. Of course you can also backfill and leave until cured some excessive thickened epoxy and not clamp the parts together if you find the need to do so.
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