I guess it's time to come out of the closet!Bartender 24

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:38 am

Mike

:shock: That is a pretty extreme turn! I have been thinking about a well cover. I think it would be a good idea for just that splash and for safety and more usable cockpit area.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Oyster » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:20 am

Bill Edmundson wrote:Mike

:shock: That is a pretty extreme turn! I have been thinking about a well cover. I think it would be a good idea for just that splash and for safety and more usable cockpit area.

Bill

Yes, but actually in open water and running in any sea at the decent speed, its not uncommon for well sides to grab water, even though not to that extreme.

If you add seats to the sides of the well area, which is a pretty common layout for us, your butt is constantly wet without at least the upper splash guards.

But keeping in mind about well covers, you will need additional room foward or even a pivot cover for occasions of trimming the boat.

I am sure that you are aware of several additional issues. But just for conversation, if you create a cover thats going to stay over the engine while running, you must also create an offset in front and have it tall enough so that you can also trim the engine without a problem. You don't have to have it hinged when doing so, as you can just us stainless steel dog downs. You can also insulate it too, if you wish. Its not real pretty, but its functional. Hope this gives you some ilde time thinking ahead of time.....
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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:43 am

Oyster

That's a lot like what I have in mind. I plan a tilt cover over the engine. Maybe I'll put a cushion on top or just have a table. I have laided it out so that I can tilt the engine to clear the bottom. The plug will have to be up. I can also do +/- trim with the plug in.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby kens » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:03 am

Not to hyjack the thread, but look how this bartender moves out on modest 70hp.
http://youtu.be/W8Gojhp2mns
Oak is over rated, everything about it takes extra time; then it warps, splits or checks !!! :roll:

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet!

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:19 pm

As I watch the 2 Videos, I see a 30 mph 180 in less than 2 boat lengths! :shock: And, every inboarder longs to back like that!

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:32 am

Well, I'm starting to fill the hole.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby Onplane » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:44 am

Bill, Looking great! Amazing how much work you have gotten accomplished in such a little time frame (At least from my perspective! :D )

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby Oyster » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:10 am

I am not sure about your intended finished well build, but see what appears to be cleats at the junction in the outside of the well opening. But I have used a weaving method for the free standing well and corners which has really worked well to minimize the racking that use to take place in the old days. I then get the height right for the particular engine and then reduce the height so that I can also add hardwood to the end grains. I also use half laps too on the hardwood pieces so that this also ties the floating corners together.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:29 am

I usually work alone. I had to build the well in place. The cleats were used to position the motor board during glue up. I had to hold the motor board while my wife shot a few nails through the sides.

This well is braced laterally at the bottom by the frame and hull. It is braced laterally at the top the motor board by the cockpit sole.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:02 am

Well, I'm back at it after a 7 week delay.

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby kens » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:37 pm

??? Stern post to breasthook,,Stem to breasthook?
How do you tell the difference :?: :lol:
Oak is over rated, everything about it takes extra time; then it warps, splits or checks !!! :roll:

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby Bill Edmundson » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:15 pm

Depends on which way I'm going.

Maybe it's a Butt Hook. :?

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby upspirate » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:31 pm

Bill Edmundson wrote:Depends on which way I'm going.

Maybe it's a Butt Hook. :?

Bill


Tailhook??? :wink:

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 24

Postby leakcheck » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:03 pm

As an old Navy guy I am kinda partial to Tailhook!!!! :lol: :lol: :P :P :P :P :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Re: I guess it's time to come out of the closet! Bartender 2

Postby psychobilly » Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:50 pm

been over a month now..... :D any new pics????


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