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For what it's worth, I'm working on a rampage, aming to put a jet and ~600 hp/lb ft in it. Hoping for around 80 top speed, but doubt I'll ever be insane enough to get there

Tornado!

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Paul Miller in Memphis, TN
"Yeah, I had lunch with him last week at the Cracker Barrel out on I-40."

If you missed it, here's a video of Paul's boat at G5 :

V-Drive Tornado, Lake Nickajack TN, Glen-L Gathering 2011

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Paul Kane
Kane Custom Boats
Chelsea, Quebec

Building the Glen-L Hot Rod : http://www.kanecustomboats.com

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Thats one seXy looking sexy sounding Tornado..... Good job Paul!!

Thanx for the video Mr. Hot Rod... haven't seen it before.


Does anyone here have some good photos of a Rampage??

Bumpsies!

Not to contradict you, or the catalogue, Paul, but the Tornado can indeed be lengthened. The link below will explain it.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2182

The plans(actually the little booklet that comes with the plans)also have provisions in it for a heavier motor and moving the motor to compensate for the extra weight.

Interesting commentary from Glen. I had missed that thread in the past, Duane. I think a good length would be 19'-6" for this boat. It may give a bit more cockpit space. It already has such a long deck that I would consider how I could move the dash beam forward to take advantage of the increased space that lengthening the boat would afford.

Regarding your own comments about the 9* shaft angle, I did just that. If you notice in some of the pictures, even in the video from G5, the v-drive is almost even with my knees. It makes for a very long shaft. If I recall, my prop shaft is 102" long!

It's all nice to think about but I won't do it again.

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Paul Miller in Memphis, TN
"Yeah, I had lunch with him last week at the Cracker Barrel out on I-40."

Paul, did you use a whip strut? Also what dia. prop shaft did you go with?

Yes.
1" shaft.

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Paul Miller in Memphis, TN
"Yeah, I had lunch with him last week at the Cracker Barrel out on I-40."

thanks Paul, there is some debate on the Vdrive site as to the value of a whip strut but I think they are a good idea. The general concensous, over there, is that a 1" shaft made from good material is more then strong enough for the HP most of use will ever have. Paul, I noticed in another post that you've removed your PG from the Tornado thus making it direct drive. Are you thinking of entering that new SK class racing?

WARNING. RANT ON!

I like to watch these days, Duane. My racing days are long passed. The SE class will be a great boost for hobby racers, though. I hope it takes off with a lot of players without getting bogged down in "you can do this but you can't do that" rule-making foolishness. That line of action has crippled almost every racing class developed, given enough time.

I started racing in the good old days of maximum cubic inch limit and total wet weight with rider to separate the classes. The same boat would race in two or more classes with a different motor hung on it and your little brother in it instead of you. That was more about the family having fun than some racing league giving out big purses. It always comes down to money. "Spend more to win more!"

RANT OFF! Resume normal activities, please.

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Paul Miller in Memphis, TN
"Yeah, I had lunch with him last week at the Cracker Barrel out on I-40."

Now to answer your questions, Duane. I apologize for running on. APBA and I haven't always agreed.
A whip strut is good to get past the harmonic standing wave even with short shafts; essential IMHO for long shaft and shallow angle.

I removed the PowerGlide for simplicity sake. It was touchy getting the pump shaft setback at the right depth with the 1/2" motor plate I'm using. I had a circle-clip-in-groove set up and the groove positions were not quite right. I then changed to a clamp-on-collar set up and the collar kept moving back allowing the pump shaft to disengage the pump drive dogs no matter how tightly I set the collar. After getting stranded on my local lake the second time I decided I would go direct drive the way the West Coast guys do it. Point and shoot is good, too!

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Paul Miller in Memphis, TN
"Yeah, I had lunch with him last week at the Cracker Barrel out on I-40."

Hmmh... Ok that doesnt help me with my questions LOL

Sorry. Got lost for just a moment. It's good to chat with friends, though.

Your questions:
Which is more stable, Rampage or Hot Rod?
Rampage. Vee bottom vs flat(ter) bottom. Vee is always more stable, especially in choppy water. All things being equal, flatter is faster until you factor in water that is too rough for the flatty. Neither of these need be out in really rough water, IMO.

80+ mph. Not likely with a stock, slightly worn, BBC Mercruiser. Too much weight and too little horsepower. If you're thinking of using a Mercruiser outdrive with that motor it will be impossible, not unlikely. Tweak that iron a bit and you can get there with a v-drive.

Blend these answers with the other responses here. We didn't say the same words but I believe we all indicated the same thing.

Cheers,
Paul

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Paul Miller in Memphis, TN
"Yeah, I had lunch with him last week at the Cracker Barrel out on I-40."

Haha no worries mate!! Thanx for the input

I was going to use the XR out drive with a mercruiser 496 HO (425HP). Not sure what the BBC ur referring to is.

The Rampage as i read on here was designed for a jet... How about the jet drive with that 496 motor?

Cheers