Another Geronimo Coming Soon

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:16 am

Thanks, Bob, did you notice any discrepancies between the scale drawings and the full size patterns? On the transom patterns it shows a 1x2 outer batten but in several places on the scale drawings it shows 1x3.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby bobinpowayca » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:24 pm

yeah, Matt, the pattern measures 1x2 for the outer and 1x3 for the inner, but the scale sheet 3 of the drawings has written on it 1x3 for both battens.
I figured it was real important these battens be straight as possible so I paid for some pre-milled (shaped 4 sides) white oak, thus, actual dimensions of my battens are 2 1/2 inches by 13/16 inches. I could only get ten footers, so I did a butt joint on the inner (longer) batten. Bob
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby mrintense » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:06 am

Moving along. I remember that stage in my own build. I had to do the layup on the floor but I wish I would have done it on a table. The work you've done looks good so far. Looking forward to seeing more progress.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:02 pm

Here's a picture of a pile of frame parts. Have a list of parts yet to be cut on a whiteboard and crossing them off as I go helps keep the spirits up. My skills with the jigsaw are improving.

Mrintense, I figured I'd make the 3/4 inch plywood for the transom into a layout table. Its only temporary and I can use the table frame pieces as part of the building form since its all just screwed together.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:41 am

All the pieces for the frame kit are now cut out. I'll start with gluing frame 1 and I can dial in all the other parts while that is curing. I am wondering now about gluing up the stem since the instructions call for 1 1/2" screws. I can see that the screws are going to poke all the way through. The bill of materials calls for 1 1/4" screws but everywhere in the instructions calls for 1 1/2" so that is what I ordered. Wondering what other folks did.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:35 am

I have at least two black snakes living in my shop. Guess that's why I haven't seen very many mice. Better than copperheads.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby bobinpowayca » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:20 am

Hi Matt, as I recall I used 1 1/4 " screws. They countersunk just a little so actually they are about completely thru the 1 1/2" stem; they're both #8 screws anyway so just as strong, plus the 2 pieces are epoxied together. It doesn't hurt to go thru the pieces either; on my butt joints on the sheathing all the screws went completely thru the 2 sheets of ply. Just follow up with a cut-off wheel for your grinder or dotco and the silicon bronze screw points cut off like a hot knife thru butter. If you used 1 1/2" screws you'd end up screwing the stem to your work table. Bob
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:39 am

Frame 1 is all glued up! I'm making motor noises already! This process gets more enjoyable as I continue to make process. Had to drill bigger pilot holes in the white oak than I thought for the boat nails. It is really a pleasure to work with such nice wood.

Bob, thanks for the input on the screws. I'll probably run the 1 1/2" screws all the way through and grind or file off what goes through.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby Benj269 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:56 am

hoodman wrote:I have at least two black snakes living in my shop. Guess that's why I haven't seen very many mice. Better than copperheads.


If you scatter some moth balls around your shop, the snakes will leave. You have to use the old fashioned kind, not the new fangled reformulations. Unless of course you like snakes in your shop.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:15 am

Thanks for the tip with the mothballs. I might have to try that.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:26 am

Had a little argument with one of the frame three gussets right after I had nailed it on. I won... eventually.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby bobinpowayca » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:38 pm

Hi Matt, yeah I nailed my gussets on too, I splurged and used 1/4 marine ply. Be sure the frame members won't move, i.e., clamp them well or nail to the work table. With Sibronze boat nails you need a good pilot hole just a little less diameter then the nail, nearly the length of the nail into the oak, or they're going to bend. The epoxy will bond the gussets. Bob
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:14 am

Yeah, Bob, thanks. I am learning those things and have a good procedure for gluing the frames now. I am working on encapsulating frames 1-3 now and will be gluing up frame 4 probably tonight. I really appreciate the support of those folks that are further along than me. Hoping to have the frames on a building form within a couple of weeks.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:18 pm

Had a little setback two weekends ago when I sprained my ankle so I didn't really feel like standing in the shop for a while. I finally got back at it this week. All frames have been assembled as of today. I plan to encapsulate them while I can lay them flat. Then my assembly table will magically transform into the transom.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby bobinpowayca » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:56 pm

Hi Matt, for what it's worth as to "lessons learned" - don't cut out the motor opening on the transom until you know whether you'll be using a "short shaft" motor or "long shaft" motor (most modern motors are long shaft). I cut out mine too big and had to do the transom over. :( Bob
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