Cabrons Zip Build

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Andy Garrett
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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Andy Garrett » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:27 am

Regarding the donor boat:

I bought a 1977 Bee Craft as a donor. It was an even $1000. In the end, all I kept was the motor and the trailer.

On the trailer, I replaced every roller and bunk and added two addition bunks. It got all new lighting, wiring, tires and wheels, bearings, bearing savers, a new winch, tower, swing-away hitch, paint, the works.

On the engine, I also had the prop re-hubbed, replaced all the spark plugs, new controls and control cables, new wiring harness, new impeller, new decal set and paint, etc.

Then, I paid $100 to have the donor hull hauled to the transfer station for disposal.

I'm not sure if if was worth it, but the trailer and engine are very solid and look pretty dang good now. Besides, I enjoyed the work. ;)
Andy Garrett

Perhaps the slowest Zip build in Glen-L history...

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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby cusoak » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:18 am

looking at you pictures of the dash and could see the floor covering . I was wondering what you used there and how did you keep it in place.
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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:12 pm

The problem with the stuff I salvaged from the donor boat is that it all needs major work to be restored. The cleats were pitted. The u bolts impossible to remove. The windshield a little bent and the plastic crazed. The cables stiff. The steering box..old..... The wheel has a crack in it. Ignition, old.
and so on.The 35 Johnson is from 1976. How reliable can it be, really.

The certainly is much storage space on the Zip as it`s designed. I had to figure out a way to improve that. I`m amazed at how much gear is required on a boat.
The back to back seating will work out fine. The space in the Zip is small, securely confined and there`s not really anywhere for a passenger to jump to. I put hand rails on the carling and it`s easy enough for the passengers to brace their feet on my Battery/ Gas tank access door.
The only problem with the traditional seating is that I can`t imagine it`s very pleasant facing forward and having your head right next to a rumbling outboard.

Andy, your deck design is really quite wonderful. Very unique and certainly one of a kind. Nice work!

The glue that I used to glue down my floor material is Contact Cement. 2 coats. Not the Latex contact, the real stinky amber colored stuff. Just remember to be generous with the application, 2 nice even coats. It`s best done above 60 degrees. really...the warmer the better.

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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby cusoak » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:49 am

Do you have any picu\tures of the flooring you used. I would like to see it.
I can say this about old outboards

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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby cusoak » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:54 am

Do you have any pictures of the flooring to show what you used, I like to see what it looks like.
In regardes to old outboards they are some trouble. At first mine would idle ok but not run at full throttle. Got that fixed and then it would not idle right. Finially with some help from a new friend that I met on line and lived close to me we got it adjusted correctly and not it starts and runs great every time. I get a lot of complements on the Mercury, it's a 1961 45 hp.
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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:34 pm

I bought the flooring material an Home Depot. There is a pic of it in the thread somewhere.

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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:28 pm

Have had almost zero time to work on the Zip in the past few months
but I did paint the wheel rims on the trailer and changed out the poorly
fastened winch cable. Been smoothing out the surfaces for the paint too
and what a job it is.
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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby scarrera » Mon May 04, 2015 8:50 am

Hey Josh

Thanks for reaching out and lending some advice, I was really hoping for some other local boatbuilders nearby. I'd like to come by and see the Zip you've built, perhaps I'll hold off on getting the flying saucer plans until then!!? Hopefully you get this message, apparently I cannot use the PM function because I'm still new to the forum.

Ben
In flying, the probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival.

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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Mon May 04, 2015 1:05 pm

Hi Ben,

Give me a call any time.

778-398-1731

Josh

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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Tue May 12, 2015 5:54 pm

I finally got the deck to where I wanted it. Fairly decent overall. There some dust in the surface. Hopefully I can buff it out. The White paint certainly shows up the imperfections. I sanded and sanded and then sanded some more to smooth out the surface. Eventually I came to the point and said, " enough is enough"

I learned one heck of a lot about the painting process. Roll and tipping, thinning out the paint to help keep a wet
edge, a clean garage and paint prep, are key to success!

I used Pettit Z-spar enamel gloss White. Originally I was going for a Satin finish but the paint came out uneven.
I`m using the Pettit gloss black enamel for the stripe.

I will let the ZIP dry for a couple of days and ad a little bling on Friday. Can`t wait.

I haven`t worked on the ZIP much in 5 months.....and let me tell you,
It`s almost painful when there isn`t the time to boat build.
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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Wed May 13, 2015 7:48 am

Here she is with the Painted stripe.

Anyone know if you can buff out the dust from black? Will some wax/polish
clean it up, smooth it out a bit?

Thanks
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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Riff » Wed May 13, 2015 8:29 am

Nice :)
Looks good.
Kurt

My build, hopefully a tribute in remembrance of my grandfather Jon.
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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby mrintense » Fri May 15, 2015 1:53 pm

Hey Josh,

Nice work on the paint so far. You know, the woodies look fantastic, but the painted boats here on the forum are giving them a run for their money.
Carl
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Crafting a classically styled Vera Cruise named "Some Other Time"

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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Sun May 31, 2015 5:26 pm

I made a bit more time to work on the ZIP.

Hardware is down and finished up the majority of the electrical.

My electrical wiring is a bit messy. A bit of a nest. I should have done the electrical before
I put the fore-deck on. Would have made things a lot easier.

Here a some pics I took today.

Finish painting the side, add the graphic stripe, get licence number,
Buy the control cables. A Dozen or so things after that and I will be done.

Oh` yeah... I`ve been thinking about some wood accent of sorts on the foredeck.


Josh :)
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Re: Cabrons Zip Build

Postby Cabron » Sun May 31, 2015 5:28 pm

a few more
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