Red's Riviera

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Red's Riviera

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well what's one to do when they finish a boat???? Start another one what else. I started on my Riviera about three weeks ago all the frames are ready to glue up and the transom pieces are being cut now so in a few days I should have everything glued up and ready to build the form. I'm thinking of using white oak for the motor stringers so Ill have to pick some up next week and get them ready for the frames.
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Are your frames also White Oak?

Please know that White Oak can give problems with epoxy. I ask because a few years ago, we had a discussion on this forum about this potential incompatibility between WO and epoxy. I'm relating this from memory and I believe that it's due to WO being a really tight grained wood that does not allow the epoxy to soak in enough to get a good grip. The problem is solved by applying a 40 grit grinding pad to your glue surfaces in order to give the epoxy some "tooth." On my Zip, the frames are all genuine mahogany but the sheers are WO. I roughed up the sheers with 40 grit (only where I was going to apply the glue) and the adhesion is very good.

Your work is looking good so far. I'm always glad to see another Riv getting built. It's a beautiful design.

BTW, here is a link to a different type of epoxy that has no probs with WO at all. It's a favorite among restorers of classic wooden boats. WO was an extremely popular frame material back in the day.

http://www.smithandcompany.org/CPES/
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Kyle

I know where you can get help for the flip! :wink:

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What do you have in mind, Bill?
We could make a weekend of it if we planned it right. It's an easy drive for me if I have enough notice. I've been to Macon but not Milner.
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Thanks for that link, Dave!! I did not know CPES had a winter, lower odor formula. I think I will use that when I seal the interior of the Torpedo. Yes about the sanding the WO. I just roughed up my WO stringers to laminate the plywood to them. WO is very slick, especially after planing.

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Dave the frames are genuine mahogany I was going to use it through out but now I think I might run out and the guy I bought it from is out. I don't want to run out of it and have to try and find some more plus Ill never get it again for the price I paid so I'm going to use white oak for the stringers and chines and sheers and yes I know about roughing it up before gluing thanks for the heads up.

Bill thanks for the help Ill defiantly need it when the time comes how was trip the iagg looked like an awesome time thanks for posting for us.

Dave thanks for the info and offering to help flip when the time comes the more the better

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IAGG was great and the people were even better. Twenty-three days of great experiences. The trip on each end was grueling! But, worth it.

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Glad you're back safe and had a Great time!! That long airplane ride is what I would not look forward too. I had lots of MaiTais on the way to Hawaii to help me along. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Wow Red, Isnt this your third Glen-L!?! You sure got the boat building bug! Good luck with the Riviera!

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thats awesome Red...Keep the pics coming!!
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red wrote:Dave the frames are genuine mahogany I was going to use it through out but now I think I might run out and the guy I bought it from is out. I don't want to run out of it and have to try and find some more plus Ill never get it again for the price I paid so I'm going to use white oak for the stringers and chines and sheers and yes I know about roughing it up before gluing thanks for the heads up.

Bill thanks for the help Ill defiantly need it when the time comes how was trip the iagg looked like an awesome time thanks for posting for us.

Dave thanks for the info and offering to help flip when the time comes the more the better
If you can get Sapele, get it. It is good stuff.
I paid less than either wht oak or mahog for it, and glad I did.
Oak is over rated, everything about it takes extra time; then it warps, splits or checks !!! :roll:

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I'm using Sapele in the Torpedo. I like it a lot. It's a bit heavier than Phillipine or Honduras, but very nice to work with.

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Chris this will be number four and the more I look at the big tahoe or the Monte Carlo theres probably going to be a fifth sometime down the road. As for the white oak I might have to see if he has any african mahogany left if so Ill probably just use that instead.

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haven't had much time for the Riviera Ive been doing a side job but have managed to get the frames and stem built after the holidays Ill clean the shop rearrange it and get the form built
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Look's great, Red, but you are much too neat!! Need to see some epoxy finger prints all over everything so I know you used enough glue!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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