Attaching Cleats

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Attaching Cleats

Postby Onplane » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:03 am

Anyone have a link to a discussion thread for attaching cleats to the deck?

Specifically, I'd like to know what is the best method for attaching deck hardware like cleats, skenes, handles, bumper holders, etc...

The two options as I see are either going with wood screws or through bolts.

Worst-case scenario, if a rope line pulled strong enough it could pull wood screws out of the deck, however, if it really pulled hard enough, couldn't it do the same with through bolts? Perhaps even causing more damage?

My plan was to install these in areas where I have frame members beneath, instead of just through the relatively thin decking only.

Also, should the hardware be bedded in some sort of silicon or adhesive putty? I will want to periodically remove the hardware so additional coats of varnish may be applied... What is the best practice here?

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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby Bill Edmundson » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:11 am

Charles

Haven't seen you in for a while. I prefer to through bolt when I can with backing plate or fender washers. If I can't bolt, I use the longest screws I can. For bedding I like 3M4000UV or Sika 291.

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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby vupilot » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:45 pm

Hey Charles you must be getting close. Good to hear from you.

I through bolted the bow handle and the big cleats. Screwed the fender cleats and windshield brackets. Used boat life caulk on the screws.

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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby hoodman » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:20 pm

I'm planning to back all my deck cleats with oak blocking underneath the plywood. That way I'll have a really solid substrate to screw into or bolt through.

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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby slug » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:38 pm

I usually back mine with ply and bed them with a non hardening caulking. Used to be able to get "bedding compound" which stayed pliable and any squeeze out was easily removed.. I't getting harder to find, so I now use "plumber's caulk", also called sometimes sealing caulk or even weatherstrip. Comes in strips on a roll.

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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby rbrandenstein » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:23 am

Hey Charles, good to see you're back at it. Sounds like you are getting close.
I just used screws. Everything is mounted where there is oak framing, battens, or the sheer underneath.
I haven't really stressed anything, so it's hard to tell if through bolting is required.
I just bedded things in black polyurethane caulk from Home Depot. (Don't use white)
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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby Bill Edmundson » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:36 am

Charles

The ones that I really want backed and bolted are on the bow and stern where I might tow or be towed.

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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby Onplane » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:02 pm

Thanks for the replies. Pretty sure I can through bolt and get through a batten board on all but the skenes which I either screw into the sheer (makes me Leary about reducing sheer strength) or use a backing plate for.

And yes getting close. Here's a teaser...
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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby hoodman » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:08 pm

Looks like you're going to have a fun summer!

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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby garrech » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:32 am

Looks great! What's a skene?

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Re: Attaching Cleats

Postby vupilot » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:53 am

Really Nice Charles! Thanks for the pics.


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