Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by neel thompson » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:13 am

Getting closer to the pointy end with the cold molding process on the bottom. The strips are down to about 2.75" in width as the curves are getting more severe. They may get narrower yet as I continue to move forward.
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by Brad Tucker » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:19 am

Looking good!

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by Hercdrvr » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:36 am

Moving right along there Neel. Shame to cover up your beautiful framing. I’m getting a feeling you are going to pass me by and splash the PB 22 before my Bback and I had a 1 year jump on you.
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by steveh41 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:39 am

Solid progress... looks great Neel!
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by TomB » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:53 am

Looking good Keel. Are you encapsulating the inside of the first layer or will that happen later? Tom

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by jenko » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:06 am

Looks great Neel,
Had a great ride in the Gentry,would delivery come with a purchase;

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by neel thompson » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:25 pm

Thanks for the compliments Brad and Steve

Matt... I am really not trying to go fast, but I will say the process is speeded up considerably on the second build. Being retired also helps, but there is no way I will be passing you.


Tom.... I have been putting one coat of epoxy on the inside of each piece of plywood and then a second after the first has dried and I am ready to glue it on. So after the flip, I will clean everything up and put a final coat on the entire inside of the hull. Everything will have at least three coats and many parts will have four.


Peter.... I may show up down there someday, but probably not in a boat !! I really enjoyed meeting you and Sara at G-12 and hope you can get back again next September for G-13.

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by mrintense » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:45 pm

Looking fine Neel. Its easy to see why these cold molded boats are so stiff. All those frames and battens and an unmoving skin! How are you going to decide which to use when you finish her?
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by neel thompson » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:28 am

Finally finished the first layer of 1/4" Okoume plywood on the bottom. As I got closer to the bow, the pieces got narrower and I could only glue two pieces on each day because of the way they had to be clamped. In the pictures you can see three or four pieces on each side that don't match the plywood. I had to use two 1/8" laminations of mahogany in that area because of the sharp bend from chine to stem. The bottom gets one more complete layer of 1/4" plywood and then the third and last layer will be 1/4" plywood with mahogany planking in the forward section. The sides get two layers of 1/4" plywood followed by the 1/4" mahogany planking. It still won't float !!
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by mrintense » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:45 am

Oh, I think it would float Neel, but you would get pretty wet! :D :D Looking good.
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by neel thompson » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:11 pm

I spent a good bit of time the last few days doing final tweaking of the fairing on the hull side battens/frames. Also the bottom has been rough sanded and is ready for final fairing prior to layer #2 going on. I have started installing the planking on both sides. This process should go a little faster than the bottom planking.
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by TomB » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:57 pm

Looks good Neel. Not using Raptors for the first layer? Tom

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by neel thompson » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:55 am

Tom… I did use Raptor staples on the bottom in combination with wire staples (through rope) and drywall screws (through wood spacers). The Raptor staples would not hold well in arears with big bends and curves. The other problem I had with it was that it would jam fairly often. It required removing four screws and pulling off the front plate to remove a piece of broken staple. That process really slowed down the gluing operation and got old pretty fast !! I was using 1/2" staples and I think it works much better with 3/8". I love the Raptor brad nail gun and stapler, but they do have their limitations and you have to get used to their quirks. In my opinion, the best method for attaching plywood planking is with wire staples through a rope along with an occasional screw here and there. The less holes you have to fill, the better (less sanding is the goal). After all the plywood planking is on, I will be putting bronze screws about six or eight inches apart along the keel, chine, and sheer to hold everything in place permanently.

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by TomB » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:00 am

Great explanation Neel. I saw the Raptor nailer, rope and wood washers :?: :?: . I have similar jam experience, most of the time it clears with a few quick cycles while the staple supply is off the plunger, but...I have the wrench out for the four screws as part of glue prep. Tom

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Post by nybhh » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:48 am

This is such a beautiful design, I really appreciate the effort you are making to document your build so well. It is super helpful and these threads make a build so much more approachable for us new guys. Much appreciated.
-Brandon

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