Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby neel thompson » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:48 am

I picked up two sheets of 3/4 Okoume ply and one sheet of 1/4 Okoume yesterday. I cut all of the remaining frame pieces as well as two pieces for the stem this morning. I managed to have about a half sheet left over. I will be using the 1/4 ply to laminate to the 3/4 wherever the plans call for 1" thickness. Frame #1, all of the nine mid frames (chine to chine along the bottom between the main frames), and the frame bottom doubler reinforcing pieces for seven of the nine main frames will be 3/4 Okoume, laminated to 1" where required. A lot of wood going into this hull.
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby hoodman » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:03 pm

That's some pretty efficient layout!

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby psychobilly » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:15 pm

hoodman wrote:That's some pretty efficient layout!


Yeah, not much scrap!

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby neel thompson » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:22 am

There's a boat in this mess somewhere!! Making progress with the plwood
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby neel thompson » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 am

I have been working on frames #1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, and 3. Frame 3 falls at the forward end of the stringers. Frame 2 falls at the aft end of the stem, and frames 1.5 and 1 attach directly to the stem. I had to laminate material to each of these frames to make them the required thickness. I made frame one out of a single piece of 3/4" plywood and laminated 1/8" mahogany to it. The other frames and mid frames get 1/4" ply laminated to the bottom sections to bring them up to 1" thickness. So to make a long story longer, when I am finished with this task, the bow of the boat will ready for the building form. As you can see, I am using the old "staple through the rope" method to attach the laminations.
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby billy c » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:31 am

Coming along nicely Neel. Going to be fun to see those frames hung on the building form.
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby neel thompson » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:48 pm

Billy......Another couple weeks and I should be moving everything to the garage. I have been following your restoration project. That will be a fun one to watch. I'm not looking forward to the day when I have to take that on. Best of luck. Neel

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby neel thompson » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:35 am

This morning I finish sanded all nine "mid bottom frames". They start at the bow aft of frame #1 and go between each main frame all the way back to the transom. They are ready for encapsulation. Seven of the nine main frames get doubled up along the bottom from chine to chine. I have all of those pieces cut, but before gluing them on, they need final fitting to the frames.
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby neel thompson » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:51 am

I have been communicating with a guy in SC who is building a PB 22. He is many moons ahead of me, so he has suggestions that can really help me. One thing he said was that I should buy another set of plans from a different source. So I did that and they show much more detail than the set I bought first. I couldn't do the whole build from these as they require lofting, and I don't want to get into that. But they do show many critical measurements and angles not shown on the first set. Here are two pages from the new plans. The second gives a pretty good drawing of what this project may look like in the end.....
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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby TomB » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:48 am

2nd set from WB? I wondered if they would be different.

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:08 am

Neel

I just thought 14 frames on the Bartender were a lot! How thick is the hull?

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby neel thompson » Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:00 am

Tom... I did get the plans from WB. For the most part the dimensions are the same, but the main difference seems to be the size and shape of the frames and mid frames. WB plans show the mid frames only going slightly beyond the stringers on both sides while the Classic Boat plans go chine to chine. I think the WB plans are close to original and talk about stuff that we don't do like they did in 1936. They also specify wood species and some of it I have never heard of. I think my new friend in SC is right about needing two different sets of plans for this boat. They each have their good points and combined they are about 50% of what you get with Glen-L plans.

Bill... I am going to cold mold with two layers 1/4" ply and plank with 1/4" mahogany. I will do that on the bottom, sides, and deck. That is about 1/8" thicker than specified but I'm doing it anyway.

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:11 am

Neel

The BT has a 5/8" bottom and 3/8" everywhere else. (Just for reference.) Your PB-22 will be one tough boat.

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby kens » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:55 pm

Looking at the bottom drawing, is the engine sitting farther forward than we are used to seeing?
Or, is that a optical illusion?
Oak is over rated, everything about it takes extra time; then it warps, splits or checks !!! :roll:

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Re: Neel's Palm Beach 22 build

Postby neel thompson » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:40 am

Ken.... If you look at the first picture, you can see the engine placement in the hull. It is about where we are used to seeing it, but if you look at the engine hatch you can see that the forward edge of the hatch is quite a distance from the front of the engine. I guess that gives you room to get in there to work on it. I won't be installing a hatch nearly that big. Also I will build in a rumble seat up there somewhere so that would be a good place to be when working on the engine.


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