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Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:04 pm
by CarlM
All apologizes for being horrible about posting progress I have no excuses. There were many things accomplished since my last post. The building form was built and all frames installed. That’s when mistakes were discovered. I realize that one of my biggest flaws is a lack of attention to detail. First I discovered the stem was mounted incorrectly, not allowing for the keel. Wasn’t too difficult to change just annoying. Neel gave me the tip of mounting the frame clips to the outside of the stringers in the motor area. I didn’t remember that until later but it was easier to correct then the stem. After the flaws were fixed the keel, chine and sheer was installed. I then started on some of the fairing but got a little rambunctious on one side, so some material needed to be added back. At this point everything was encapsulated with 3 coats of epoxy. Next all the frames were notched for the battens. All battens were scarf jointed and coated with three coats of epoxy. Finally all battens were installed and that is where she sits today. I’m hoping to have the faring completed in the next two months. In September I will be taking two weeks of vacation where I plan on installing the layers of plywood and milling material for the final hull layer.

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:12 pm
by CarlM
More pictures

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:13 pm
by CarlM
Even more pictures

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:15 pm
by CarlM
Even more pictures

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:16 pm
by CarlM
Last but not least how she sits now.

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:20 am
by neel thompson
Nice work Carl. I like the approach you have taken after mistakes have been made. Sometimes you will have to force yourself to correct the problem before moving on. I know that there will definitely be at least two Gentrys at the Gathering this year. Do you think you will be coming down?

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:05 am
by DrBryanJ
Very nice Carl. glad you found and fixed your mistakes. Easier now then later.

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:14 pm
by CarlM
Thanks DrBryanJ and Neel. Yes i plan on attending again this year, most likely on Saturday only. While Scooter was a big inspiration for me to build the Gentry I would love to see another one. Who else is bringing their Gentry?

On a separate note i was thinking of buying one of the Raptor fasteners, what do you guys suggest. Staples versus brads and what size or model.

Thanks...........Carl

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:14 pm
by neel thompson
The other Gentry I know is coming was just finished in Alabama. John has been to two Gatherings without a boat and now will have one to show off. I have both the Raptor stapler and brad nailer. They both have different uses, but if I had to pick one, I would go with the stapler. It is great for cold molding the plywood strips to the framework. I have had some trouble with mine and I have sorted it all out with Raptor. I have to send it back to them for a new something or other thing. But when it works, it is great. See you in September.

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:24 pm
by BarnacleMike
Carl,

I can't speak for the Raptor brad nailer... but I HAVE used the stapler, and I'd certainly recommend it.

I used it in construction of my transom for my Utility. Essentially, I epoxied one layer of 1/4" plywood to another, and drove the Raptor staples through the outer layer to hold it all together as the epoxy cured. Afterwards, I snipped off the ends of the staples, and sanded it all smooth (which took only minutes). The exposed ends of the staples simply disappeared with stain and varnish. You can't see them... at all.

I plan to do exactly the same thing with my Zip.

If I were cold-molding anything, I'd use the Raptor fasteners again, without hesitation.

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:19 pm
by CarlM
Neel, i appreciate the information and I look forward to seeing you at the gathering.

BarnacleMike. Thanks for your input, I was starting to wonder if getting one was worth it. I have read some threads discussing its shortcomings. I believe i will go ahead and pull the trigger on it.

Thanks again...........Carl

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:47 pm
by sscobra
I, too, highly recommend the stapler. I used mine to fasten every piece of plywood to the hull. I used thousands of staples and had no problems. I just kept the stapler clean of any epoxy. I did not use the composite staples on the mahogany layer. Skip

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:32 pm
by CarlM
Thanks sscobra it is reassuring to hear your insight. I plan on doing exactly as you have........Carl

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:07 pm
by hoodman
Man you are cruising right along. Looks great!

Re: Somerset, KY Gentry

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:23 am
by mrintense
I'm a bit late to this thread, but welcome from another Carl to the forum Carl. :D

It looks as if you are making good progress. The setbacks, I think, are just part of the process of building. What they have tended to do to me is cause me to be more cautious about doing anything that is permanent until I am sure I have all my ducks in a row. In my case it's probably slowed down my build considerably.

Nonetheless, you have the right attitude. Fix (or recover from as Bill Edmundson says) the mistakes and push on. Keep up the good work.