Lee's Monaco utility build

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Matt,

Thank you. I am learning more as I go, just like many other parts of the build.

Neel,

Thank you for the reply. Yes, I did see your picture and post on your PB thread about the side planking. I just replied to your post (sorry I didn't reply sooner).

I do plan on a cutwater so that is why I was okay with screws at the stem.

In regard to the side edge grain at the transom, is this not noticeable because a filler stain was used? I don't know much about stains but do filler stains make the grain less visible. I would like to see some of the wood grain. Please let me know. Thank you.

Lee
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Lee, I did use Interlux Chris Craft Red filler stain on my Gentry and you can still see the grain, but the edge grain seems to stain up to about the same color as the sides/transom. I have been following a restoration on a 26' Gentlemans Racer on YouTiube (Snake Mountain Boatworks). They highly recommend Mike Myer Lo Boat gel stain (Lake Oswego Boat Co.). That is what I will use on the PB, and I think I like color they use on Hacker boats. Here is a link to the YouTube video showing the stain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWT6KRgolEM

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Neel,

Thank you for the information. Was there something about the Interlux filler stain that you didn't like?

Lee
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Monaco build YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP4Edb ... /playlists

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I can't say I didn't like it, but it flashes quickly so you have to be on top of things and be ready to wipe off soon after applying. Watching the video of Snake Mountain Boatworks applying the Lo Boat stain, it looks like it's much more forgiving. You can also do a second coat over the first if you have some light spots. They used to use Interlux filler stains, but switched to Lo Boat.

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Neel,

Using a stain that gives more working time would be better for me. I work kind of slow :) It is also good to know that they switched to Lo Boat. More forgiving is also a good thing for me. I guess I will really need to consider Lo Boat.

Lee
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I finished the first row of final side planking including the first row on the transom :) I started working on the second row. The first two pieces on the starboard side are fitted. Saying it takes a long time to get a tight fit between the final side planking pieces is an understatement but with patience, you can get there :)

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Nice Lee

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Thank you Neel.

Lee
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Nice to see you being able to get to the final planking Lee. I remember how much work it took to get the edges flat on my cabin sides (and they are still not perfect). I can only imagine the amount of work it will take to plank the hull. But So worth it in the end. Looks great so far.
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Thank you Carl. I appreciate it. Yes, it will be worth it for sure but mine aren't perfect either :)

Lee
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One of the nice advantages of visiting boat shows in the past is that I got a chance to see other's work and I could see the same fit and finish challenges that I've run into. It' helps to make me feel less like an amateur woodworker (even though I am). :D :D
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I now have two rows of final planking attached :) They still need to be cleaned up but I probably will wait on that because I need to put some thickened and darkened epoxy in the seams in some places. Glen-L recommended keeping the joint gaps between planks at 1/32 of an inch or less. My goal was 0.030 and I used a spark plug feeler gauge as a guide. There are a few places that might be slightly over this but I am satisfied so far.

Here is a picture of how I used clamping for the second row of side planking at the stern. This are was more tricky due to the curvature of the hull. I also used plywood washers and dark brown composite brads. They should disappear once I stain the hull. Here are a couple of other including one where I did start some of the sanding/clean up.

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Looking good Lee... Nice tight joints.

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Thank you Neel. I really appreciate it.

Lee
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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

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I am munching through the third row of final layer side planking. Several pieces are dry fitted so I will be epoxying them soon. A thought occurred to me in regard to trying to keep the joints (gaps) between the planking pieces as tight as possible. I plan to seal these gaps with thickened epoxy before staining and varnishing but at this point, I don't plan to seal the sides with epoxy after staining and before varnishing. In some areas the joints are very tight and I won't be able to get much epoxy in there. Has anyone ever thought of actually using thin spacers (e.g. maybe 1/16 of an inch) to purposely leave a gap to ensure you could get epoxy in there to help ensure a good seal? I probably won't try this at this point but I am still curious what others think. Please let me know. Thank you.

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