TrueGrit/Coastal Cruiser Walkaround

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Re: TrueGrit/CC Walkaround

Post by watkibe » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:50 pm

http://www.microcruising.com/shed.htm
there ya go, Stimson Marine.
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Re: TrueGrit/CC Walkaround

Post by JoeM » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:47 am

Sweet. Thanks for the link to the article and supplier of the plans. Much appreciated!
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Re: TrueGrit/CC Walkaround

Post by mrintense » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:10 am

Joe, it looks like you are being very thorough in your approach to this boat. I sympathize with you space issue. I think many builders, including myself, have to deal with this. I might offer some suggestions. First off, it will be a little while before you need the full space and you can certainly get started on the frames in the meantime.

The eventual space needed will need to be solved but I am sure you can come up with some solution. One possibility is if your boat will fit in your garage but is too big to work on in there, then consider a movable platform. Another option, I've seen is to build it next to the house in the back yard and cover it when not building, however damp and heat will be a factor here. A friend of mine built a 28 foot Blue Jacket and rented space from a business. I believe he got a discount by negotiating with the business owner ( I believe they were friends as well). You could rent the space until the hull is flipped, then move it back to your yard on a trailer and finish it up.

My boat just fits in my garage with approximately 3 inches to spare (1 up front and 2 in the back). I have to open the garage to work on her and space is tight on one side and crowded on the other, but so far I have managed. Eventually when I get more height, I am going to have to move it out but I can build the cabin and still clear the garage door opening.
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Re: TrueGrit/CC Walkaround

Post by JoeM » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:03 am

Thanks Carl! I'm definitely trying to be as thorough as possible before I begin. I'm hoping that I can think through most of the steps so when I'm actually doing them it's just following my plans. It also gives me something to do while I'm wrapping up home projects before beginning cutting.

I appreciate all suggestions from you guys as I have a lot to learn from all of your experiences. Thanks!

I am 100% starting cutting before I have the whole build space constructed. I am currently finalizing my design on my layout table and once i'm done with a few house projects I will build it and pretty much immediately start cutting out my frame templates out of less expensive plywood. Once my templates are cut out I plan to begin on assembling the frames with good lumber in my garage.

I don't have the space in my garage to do the build, even with a moveable form/frame. The boat is 8'6" beam and 27' long and I have a roughly 20'x20' garage. I do have ample yard space and had already planned on putting a garage/shop there before I started dreaming of building my own boat. As I said earlier, I plan on building a steel building, size about 20'x40'x14' with the door being as tall as 13.5'. We already were planning on storing our truck camper in there, and if we ever moved up to a motorhome we wanted to be able to store in there as well so a tall entry was necessary before the boat.

My health issues are such that driving to and from a rented space for the build would not work. I need to have the build space at my house so I don't have to travel to and from. That way I can work in short increments and take lots of breaks during stretches where my issues are rearing their ugly heads. Another issue with renting, is Southern California is super expensive and I could easily spend more on renting the storage space during the building of the hull (2-3 years estimate, more if I had to travel to and from) than I would on the entire boat, electronics and engine included. If it weren't for my family and friends being close, travel being so difficult for me, and the great weather for the crazy amount of recreational opportunities we have I would move out of California. Would certainly free up money for the boat :)

It's possible that I may start building the form and starting on the hull before I construct the shop. Being in Southern California, heat, wind, and dust are my main enemies. It doesn't rain all that much and snow is virtually unheard of where I live so I could always just cover with a tarp when i'm not working. We also don't usually get hard freezes. So I could build everything outside as long as I have a way to give some protection from the elements when I paint and epoxy, like a temporary tent structure. While i'm prepared to do this I would prefer to have the shop built first.

I'm impressed with how you have managed the space for your build and am following along.
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Re: TrueGrit/Coastal Cruiser Walkaround

Post by JoeM » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:33 pm

The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry. I still have plans still dreaming but real life has been giving me a kick in the pants recently and haven't begun cutting or acquiring lumber. :(

I did however get gifted an old 12" craftsman bandsaw! :D It needs a little TLC but it works as is. Only needed a blade. Now to figure out why the drive belt keeps slipping. I'm think I may try to disassemble it completely and clean everything then oil/grease and reassemble. The pulleys themselves look good right now but we'll see once they're off. Blade wheels appear to be good, though may need new tires. Motor seems to run like a champ even though it's almost as old as I am, if not older.

So while I haven't started yet, i'm that much closer. Have a big trip coming up and there is so much prep for that. Hopefully will be able to finally get going once the craziness of the trip is over.
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Re: TrueGrit/Coastal Cruiser Walkaround

Post by chugalug » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:16 pm

:D Hey,I got one of those! I noticed that sawdust will get in bottom of slot and one won't be able to tilt back up 90 degrees.I just use mine with 1/2 " blade for quick cut off.
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Re: TrueGrit/Coastal Cruiser Walkaround

Post by hoodman » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:48 am

That will be great for cutting out frame pieces and innumerable other tasks. Wish I had a bandsaw!
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Re: TrueGrit/Coastal Cruiser Walkaround

Post by Conrad » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:27 pm

Joe,

Have you been able to start yet?

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Re: TrueGrit/Coastal Cruiser Walkaround

Post by JoeM » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:26 am

Conrad wrote:Joe,

Have you been able to start yet?

-John
Have been forced to hit pause on a lot of things recently. Working on resolving some issues to hopefully get started but honestly having doubts on how quick that will happen. :( Real life sure is a kick in the pants sometimes.
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Re: TrueGrit/Coastal Cruiser Walkaround

Post by mrintense » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:43 am

Joe, treat this phase like you will need to treat the entire construction. First off accept that this is going to take quite a while to finish. Then accept the fact that it will progress at the rate it progresses. There will be the inevitable setbacks and delays. The most important part of building, and I mean THE MOST IMPORTANT, is to work on something everyday. If that means buying one piece of lumber, or it means, rearranging your work space, or it means ordering something for the boat, it is forward progress. Pay, AND BUILD as you go. Eventually it will get done if you want it bad enough.

This isn't to say that life can't get in the way, and I am sorry that it has to do this to people. I know from your posts that you have to deal with more than the average person, but for your own well being, consider what I said about a little everyday. Good luck.
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Re: TrueGrit/Coastal Cruiser Walkaround

Post by JoeM » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:52 pm

mrintense wrote:Joe, treat this phase like you will need to treat the entire construction. First off accept that this is going to take quite a while to finish. Then accept the fact that it will progress at the rate it progresses. There will be the inevitable setbacks and delays. The most important part of building, and I mean THE MOST IMPORTANT, is to work on something everyday. If that means buying one piece of lumber, or it means, rearranging your work space, or it means ordering something for the boat, it is forward progress. Pay, AND BUILD as you go. Eventually it will get done if you want it bad enough.

This isn't to say that life can't get in the way, and I am sorry that it has to do this to people. I know from your posts that you have to deal with more than the average person, but for your own well being, consider what I said about a little everyday. Good luck.
I appreciate the kind words Carl. I'm not giving up on this dream just yet. I can't even begin to say how bad I want this. There just isn't much more I can do until I have funds for buying lumber and other things. But each day I try to work on something that hopefully leads up to freeing up funds to set aside. And I'm always thinking of the boat.
With many of the choices I have made and the issues that I face, I'm feeling stuck in a position where the dream has to take a backseat while I focus on other more pressing priorities.
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