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Re: I will be turning wood into a boat shortly.

Postby PeterG » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:23 am

Cake decorating funnels are a great idea, a disposable version of that is to use Ziploc style bags with a corner cut off. You put your epoxy in the bag, snip a corner the size you need and squeeze away. That helped me a lot when I was repairing the floor of my old fiberglass boat boat and needed to apply fillets at the new keel and stringers in the hull. When the bag is empty you chuck it and get another one. Freezer bags are more rugged and you may be able to reuse it by popping the epoxy out after it sets up.
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Re: I will be turning wood into a boat shortly.

Postby watkibe » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:15 am

Thanks to PeterG for the tip on the "disposable cake decorator hack" using zip lock baggies. Since my last post and your post, I used my wife's real cake decorator gizmo to finish the transom glue up. Just as we finished, my wife dashed to the house for a large beaker of hot water and vinegar (recommended for tool clean up). The whole disassembled tool is still in that mixture; quick examination seems to show that it will be easily re-used.
I was adamant about getting the gluing done when we did it, as I was scheduled for surgery the next day. I am still recovering and have settled for the quick check until I feel better.
We started the night before with pre-heating . There is a small AC heater inside, and a small halogen work light outside; a blue tarp forms an ad hoc tent above to help contain the warmed air.
The heats stayed on until the next morning. We took the resin, hardener, and filler with us from the warm house out to the coolish 50 degree barn. I mixed the hardeners first, 1 fast to 2 slow, and then mixed it with 3 parts resin. My wife opened the bag of filler, donned her mask, and filled a 1/2 cup measure.We ended up with a very stiff mixture when we had added 1 and 1/2 cups. and then loaded that into the cake decorator. I had pre-selected and installed a nozzle that would fit onto most of the voids. Squirting epoxy putty worked well, followed with tongue depressor filleting and putty knife clean up. We were able to mechanically clean up the decorator tube quite well prior to dropping it into the cleaning solution.
The last 3 pics show the glued in transom with the laid in place keel and knee; emphasis is on how square and plum the transom ended up being.

I hope I can get back on my feet again soon; industrial strength steroids and pain meds conduce quite well to boat dreaming, but not so well to boat building ! I did spend some time reading up on other Cabin Skiff builders, Ray Macke in particular. His chronology varies a little depending on where you read it, but he seems to have gotten from plans to launching in somewhere between 1 and 2 years ! I have read other builders compare their building speeds with glaciation, and even continental drift ! He also says he has close to 27k miles beneath the keel of his CS. In a video promoting his need to build a bigger boat, he says the 27K miles has been run without his wife, because the boat is too small for the two of them...Yikes !
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Re: I will be turning wood into a boat shortly.

Postby watkibe » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:07 pm

Started gluing the stem and chine seams. Temps are about 40 degrees F, but by mixing fast and slow hardeners, it is setting up fine. Just make a loose little tent with cardboard and a tarps, and put a small heater inside.
It is becoming more like actually building a boat, day by day.
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Re: I will be turning wood into a boat shortly.

Postby hoodman » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:09 pm

Looking great. Glad you were able to find a way to make the epoxy work for you.

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Re: Boat in a tent and random weights

Postby watkibe » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:06 pm

We finally got the keel laminated in place. My back surgery recovery and the cold temperatures have made it easy to procrastinate, but I try to just do a little at a time. Eventually I will get it done !
Glen says "working quickly", about the glue-up. Haha ! He means it. Two 12 foot laminations had to be epoxied into place before anything set up. I am using fast and slow hardeners mixed at about a 3 to 4 ratio, so even in the 40 degree range you have maybe an hour. It sounds like plenty of time, but my wife had to mix about 6 or 8 liters of the epoxy putty, while I was in the boat laminating and filleting.
Afterwards, we covered the boat with cardboard and a tarp and put a small heater inside, for about 24 hours. I used a few fasteners to make sure the keel stayed in the right place, but also had to use random weights to hold it to the curvature of the bottom. We uncovered it last night, and tonight I will get back inside to remove the weights and finally get a look at what we did.
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