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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:19 am 
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Hi, Everyone I was wondering if pine will be okay to use for the frames for the minuet also is ceramic coated bronze okay for the screws?

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 Post subject: Re: wood types
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:58 pm 
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Southern Yellow Pine is fine. White Pine is not.

Any Bronze screws are fine.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:38 pm 
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Thanks for the help!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:54 pm 
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I got all my wood in Indianapolis at Northwest Lumber. Great folks, they have experience building canoes and kayaks themselves. They are right off 65 so an easy drive for you.
http://www.northwestlumberco.com/

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The frames are fairly important but they rest an inch or so above the hull. Pine is very soft and I think the plans recommend mahogany which is somewhat mechanically stronger. Even if you encapsulated the pine with a few coats of epoxy I am not comfortable that the pine might pull off some surprise that would be difficult to correct. I saw a 8x8 pressure treated spruce post rot off and fall over in 5 years and I have seen other examples of the material just falling apart without any just cause in a few years exposure.
If you doubled the width of the pine frames you might get the strength you want and certainly the boat will not rest in the water all the time but it may get snow inside and if it is not attended to, well the boat will be destroyed early in its life.
As far as ceramic coated bronze screws. I did a little search and it seems these may be standard ferris metal screws with a proprietary ceramic coating. I think the referrence to ceramic is that it is very hard durable scratch resistant coating. This is fine for many applications but even electroplated galvanized coatings are not good enough for marine use. In my opinion you could use the screws but they will fail prematurely and I have seen boats 40 years old still getting regular use. These screws would prevent that length of enjoyment in my opinion.

Stuart


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