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Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:38 pm
by Locutus
Found a Craigslist ad for a sailboat and trailer for $100.00. Looks like it might be a Glen-L 21CB. Seller doesn't know. Claims it was built by an engineer in the 1970s somewhere in the Midwest. I'm gonna go look at it tomorrow. Stay tuned!

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:55 pm
by garrech
What did you find out? Got any pics?

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:40 am
by Locutus
No pix yet but I went to see it yesterday and was able to confirm that it is in fact a Glen-L 21CB, even though the title only says "homebuilt." Same exact layout and the mainsail even has the Glen-L logo and "21." Title says the boat was built in 1975. The boat seems structurally solid but the paint is a rather rough roller and brush job. No rot that I could detect, the interior is varnished and the varnish is cracked in spots. No galley or head, just an empty space where they would go. Three berths with good cushions. All the rigging appears to be present and in good condition, although the mast has an even coating of surface corrosion. Trailer appears functional but with lots of surface rust. Didn't test the lights but the seller said he would do so. Axle has bearing buddies with greasing nipples. Tires look pretty old, may need replacement for safety.

Made a deal with the seller to buy the whole lot for $100.00 cash. Will pick up tomorrow and complete the transaction.

But it's ironic. 2 1/2 years ago I started construction of a Stevenson Super Skipjack, a 14 FT open sailing dinghy, and it's still not quite finished. I have over $9000.00 into that build. Now, for a trifling $100.00, I'll have a functional, and theoretically launch-ready sailboat with cabin, that will probably be sailed sooner than the Skipjack. (But the Skipjack is beeeautiful! The GL21 is like an ugly older sister.)

Hindsight. Sigh.

Wife's gonna be thrilled. :roll:

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:55 am
by Locutus
One more thing. A motor is not included but I just happen to have a 1955 Johnson Sea Horse 5.5 HP outboard that would be perfect for this boat. The catch: It's not currently running and needs work. Any idea where I can get it worked on in the Puget Sound (Washington) area that won't cost too much? Or maybe where I can find a detailed shop manual for it so that I can work on it myself?

On the other hand, I've seen running outboards on Craigslist for $100.00. Maybe I should go that route in the interim.

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:10 am
by BayouBengal
That's exciting! Can't wait to see the pictures. Would also really like to see pictures of your Stevenson project. Congrats on the find.

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 8:58 am
by Locutus
Thanks BayouBengal.
You can read my Skipjack build thread here:
https://www.byyb.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3247
I haven't done any work on it since October due to weather. Now that it's warming up and drying out, maybe I can finish what little is left to do and get it launched. I think I should finish it before doing anything to the GL21.

This pair of boats make for an interesting contrast:

The Skipjack is a beautiful little boat, primarily due to the excellent materials used and the care I gave to the finish (fairing, paint and varnish). It is easily towed even by a 4 cylinder car and can be launched and set up quickly, probably off the dock within 15 minutes. It will probably be my go-to for 2-hour afternoon lake sails, and is likely to generate lots of compliments and smiles. But all this at significant cost.

The GL21 is being acquired on the cheap. I should be able to power it on the cheap (used outboard) and it appears to need little to actually equip it for launch. It is larger and is more involved to launch, so will probably be reserved for overnight or multiday cruises in the islands. Cabin can sleep three.

It would be interesting to find a way to calculate something like enjoyment units per dollar spent over X period of time or days of use, and compare the results between the two boats.

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:01 am
by BayouBengal
Phenomenal job on the Skipjack!
and is likely to generate lots of compliments and smiles

Yes, it certainly will. :D

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 4:33 pm
by Locutus
Well, I'm now the proud owner of a 1975 Glen-L 21CB. Boat, trailer and equipment: $100.00 cash for the lot. Titling for both the boat and trailer will probably end up costing twice that amount because I have to take the trailer to the State Patrol since it has supposedly never been titled. Several fees involved. Tires (and maybe wheels) should be replaced as they are almost 20 years old and have weather checking. Managed to get it home alright with no blowouts or tickets.

Here are the promised photos:

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Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 11:57 pm
by sproggy
Whatever work it needs, that is a steal for $100 - well done!

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 4:16 am
by JimmY
Nice deal on the used sailboat.

Per your question on the outboard you have, check out this website: http://www.leeroysramblings.com/index.html
Those old Johnson are pretty easy to work on and you can still fine parts on craigslist and ebay, as well as reproduction parts.

Enjoy!

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 7:56 am
by Locutus
Thanks JimmY. That looks like a great resource.

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 8:30 am
by Bill Edmundson
Locutus

Can't help on the old tires. For the wheels and trailer, clean and remove as much rust as you can. Coat the rusty areas with CPES. It will get to places you'll never get paint to. Then paint. An epoxy based paint is best with a PU top coat for UV protection. That is the system the use on ships and offshore oil rigs.

Bill

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 11:25 am
by mrintense
This is a fantastic deal. The sailboat looks to be in good condition. I considered one of these for awhile before settling on my Vera Cruise. Great find.

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:16 am
by Locutus
Bill,
There's a product out there, I forget what it's called, that's some sort of rust converter. You first mechanically remove as much rust rust as possible by sanding or wire brush, then apply this purple substance and it chemically changes the rust molecules into something else, a hard substance that inhibits further corrosion. I saw use of it on the Skoolie.net forum...I'll have to research it there I suppose. My plan is to use this first and then perhaps CPES as you suggest, then primer and paint. More troublesome will be the interior of the structural tubes of the trailer. Maybe I can apply the rust converter by attaching a small mop-like cloth to the end of a long stick and shove it in from each end like a chimney sweep. I think a lot of old trailers built from steel tube are destroyed from the inside out by accumulating rust that can't be dealt with due to lack of access.

Re: Craigslist Glen-L 21CB?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:28 am
by sproggy
Locutus wrote:Bill,
There's a product out there, I forget what it's called, that's some sort of rust converter.


In the UK it is called Kurust. It's a pre-paint treatment and not an effective rust barrier in its own right so for internal protection it would be ineffective.Good for the outside, though.

For the trailer tubes I would suggest a rust inhibiting wax. Over here it's marketed as Waxoyle but I'm sure you have access to something similar. It's applied using a pump-pressurised spray arrangement on a long, flexible tube so you can get into inaccessible chassis members. Used a lot on classic cars.