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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:03 am 
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After I do the scarf I should have a extra 1/2" past the stem

No you won't, you are going to use it. :wink: That three inch was not as it apeared. Amazing 'bout those new fangled tape measure tips when measuring inside applications on angled boat work. Held in the wrong position, they always come up shorter. Now that we know that the two sheets work out, just place the two sheets flush at each end and mark your lines at the overlap and leave the lines when you scarf the pieces.

One point about the butt blocks, numerous boats especially small craft do require them if the design has been drawn to maximize every single inch off wood for boats under 16 foot especially. Experts in the field also attempt to make it simple in the beginning and which gives a first time builder confidence to move along to bigger things such as more complicated builds. Most do change their ways and never look back if at all possible as long as the fix does not come up short even though there are many ways to deal with that too as I described without harming the hulls. Epoxy and some creative thinking fixes a lot of things.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:27 pm 
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Epoxy and some creative thinking fixes a lot of things.

I'm pretty sure that's the official slogan of ameteur boat builders everywhere. :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:38 pm 
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Epoxy and some creative thinking fixes a lot of things.

I'm pretty sure that's the official slogan of ameteur boat builders everywhere. :D


Well speaking only from my recliner and also accepting your reply as a tongue in cheek response, there are creative fixes and then there are hidden flaws or inferior workmanship that gets filled and covered up with dope to surface another day after the damage of inferior workmanship or short changing has taken place.

Let me be perfectly clear here once again, :wink: the small piece of plywood that I suggested to use in what I considered to be the plywood coming up a bit short the one inche that was projected because of the scarf deminision, would be nothing more than a back fill for the rail thats normally added to all the sheers when fliped over.

Whether this is the case here I am not sure. But the stem size should be enough that its all solid in the region and the added piece was not structual from my point of view. 8)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:01 pm 
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Oyster wrote:
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Epoxy and some creative thinking fixes a lot of things.

I'm pretty sure that's the official slogan of ameteur boat builders everywhere. :D


Well speaking only from my recliner and also accepting your reply as a tongue in cheek response, there are creative fixes and then there are hidden flaws or inferior workmanship that gets filled and covered up with dope to surface another day after the damage of inferior workmanship or short changing has taken place.

Let me be perfectly clear here once again, :wink: the small piece of plywood that I suggested to use in what I considered to be the plywood coming up a bit short the one inche that was projected because of the scarf deminision, would be nothing more than a back fill for the rail thats normally added to all the sheers when fliped over.

Whether this is the case here I am not sure. But the stem size should be enough that its all solid in the region and the added piece was not structual from my point of view. 8)


Oyster,

You are correct there will be a rail installed and where the one inch piece of plywood ( if needed ) would be where the sheer clamps meet the stem and remember in this case the stem is made from 2" x 6" lumber. I have a few honey dos to knock out and then its off to the garage to scraf the plywood for the side. If all goes well I will know tonight if I'm short or not. Have my fingers crossed. :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:21 pm 
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One down and three to go for the sides. I will be able to use butt blocks as per plans for the bottom, but I have the same problem with the decking as the sides. I was wondering since the decking is flat could I simply build my blocking into the framing as I have seen on Glen-L.

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Now for the big question. Is it long enough? :D

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:49 am 
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8) All you need to do for the decking is notch the top of the station and allow the butt blocks to fit into the notches when you flip the pontoons. This "floats" the block and joint across the hard point. Fit the block short of the side frames when upright and you are good to go.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:07 am 
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Oyster,

Thanks again for the help. I might get a hold of this boat building after all. It is going to rain and the high's in the thirties here tomorrow. Looks like a good day for scrafing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:31 am 
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Since we do not plan on taking boats into space, one does not have to be a rocket engineer to build one. :lol:


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I will get to work on that as soon as I finish the Huck Finn. There is only so much time in a day. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:57 am 
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Since we do not plan on taking boats into space


I will get to work on that as soon as I finish the Huck Finn. There is only so much time in a day. :lol:

Well no matter how hard I try and even with all the additional hotair I gots, the only thing that is quite possible for me is that I will just float a bit higher at the waterline. :lol: :lol: I am still grounded in the belief that if the good Lord wanted me to fly, he would have given me wings. :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:59 pm 
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Attached the first 16' side planking tonight. I applied two coats of epoxy to the inside, allowing time between each coat and the install so the epoxy wouldn't run too bad. Started off with help, but after we got going I told him he could go. Wrong move. The bow area almost kicked my rear. I'm glad I didn't cut the plywood to rough shape as the plans called for, I used the extra plywood for leverage.
My youngest recruit did stop by for a visit, but since he is only one and known as the boss I didn't ask for his help. The last thing I needed was a one year old looking over my shoulder giving me orders. :lol:

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Looking good, but no shots of the glued up scarfs? :wink:


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Something I forgot to mention. I didn't have enough remaining space in the garage to glue up the almost 16' panel. After studing the situation, I actually used the pontoon frame to glue the scarf. Worked out great. I left the clamps off of the bow and stern so there was no bend on the pieces. Centered the scarf over the middle station, placed a piece of wood the same lenght of the width of the plywood and then overlayed another piece that was longer so I could clamp to the building form.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:25 pm 
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I talked with a friend that's into golf carts somewhat...he said this link is good for parts and they have a good forum for info:

http://www.buggiesunlimited.com/

I looked at the motors,and it seems they have a spline on the shaft sticking out of th end:

http://www.buggiesunlimited.com/golf-ca ... CC0%201005

This could be made to work direct maybe without the weight of the rest of the axle....or with just the next piece...center section...with out the axles

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Nice wood work BTW!!

A lot of folks scarf in place on the bigger builds

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