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Just wanted to say thanks again for the help and advice. But I noticed tonight that I will need more help. Installed the keel on pontoon number 1 and after stepping back I saw that I might have a problem where the chine logs attach to the stem. Will post a picture of the stem and explain my concerns the next chance I get. For now if y'all don't mind here is a picture of how she sits now.
Thanks, Chip

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Alright here is my new problem. I pre-beveled the stem as per the instructions and plans. The plans shows the bevel ending on a taper at the keel. After I installed the keel it just didn't look right. I know I need to taper the end of the keel. My concern is where the chine logs meet the angle on the stem.
Chip

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What is it they say about fairing?

"Glue it all up and then cut away all the bits that don't look like part of the boat"

(if you cut away too much, just epoxy in more wood, and repeat)

Your picture is very helpful.

I have not built that boat or seen the plans. Where do the chines land? It looks like both need to be "on plane" with the keel. Do they land on the stem? Or do they land on the keel, right behind the stem? Either way, it looks like you need to taper the keel before attaching the chines.

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Bruce,
It says " join the chine logs to the stem at the forward end in a long taper and fit against the edges of the keel tapering the latter member as required."
The plans give a perfect detail for the sheer clamps and stem, but not the chine logs.
Again what has me quessing is the taper on the stem.

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I just looked at the picture again. If you notice there is a several inch drop from the bulkhead to the stem. So I actually have a bend and a drop.

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So... let's think this thru...

Behind the join of the stem to the keel (point "A") is a flat bottom. In front of point "A", your two sides come together.

That flat bottom curves upward toward the bow. Because the bottom is flat, the chines need to curve upward on the same horizontal plane as the keel.

Based on the words you have shared, here is a top view picture of how I see the chines and keel coming together.

Once it is all in, you will fair it so that the three plywood panels come together nicely at point "A".

Have I understood your question?

AGAIN - I do not have your plans.... I am just working from the information you have given us.

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... then after it is faired, you should have sharp edges following the dark "Y" pattern.

You will end up faring away some of the keel, and more of the stem.

I think you are sitting pretty right now.

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That's what it looks like to me too Bruce,given the pic he posted.

That's also why I don't like to pre-bevel the stem etc

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Bruce,
You nailed it. After my post last night I went out to the garage and went to work. Was able to install one chine log. Hopefully I will install the other one today. Thanks for the help will let you know how it turns out.

Upspirate,
I agree about the pre-beveling. Will not do it on the next one and see how it turns out.

Chip

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How's this. Going to wait until I install the other side before I finish sanding.

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That looks great!

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Here I go again. I now what y'all are saying "not him again". I was able to put the other chine on tonight and it is looking good. Also test fitted one of the two sheer clamps laminates on one side and don't see a problem there. The instructions mention that the sheer clamps have a tendency to bow out between the front two bulkheads, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The chine on the other hand are not only bowing out there, they are also "bowing in" in the middle. Best way to describe what is going on is to picture the transom as a woman's feet and the stem as her head. Perfect figure! Wait a minute what am I complaining about.
Will post a picture.
Chip

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Make sure the fairing at the frames for the shears is proper....if not,when you tighten down on the fasteners,it could distort the shears

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You have to get them straight.

Do the plans tell you how to solve the "bowing"?

You may need to add some horizontal spacers between the frames to bring those chines into line.

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Bruce,

As I mentioned last night the instructions talk about the shear doing this but not the chine. In regards to the shear it says to use temporary bracing off of the building form. I will post a picture later.

Chip

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