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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:42 am 
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I applied 3 coats of epoxy resin over my fiberglass and the sanded it down with 80 grit. It left lotsa divots in the surface. Clearly I need to apply a few more coats. I used a roller to put the resin on and dont think I should do that again as it looks to me that, that is the cause of so many divots in the surface of my hull. My question is what methoed should I use to apply my last coats, Foam brush or a standard style brush, or maybe somethis else?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:16 am 
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I would use a roller,then go over it with a squeegee.....won't come out perfect,but will smooth out a lot.Others have used a foam roller cut in half and attached to a wooden handle to drag lightly over to smooth out

then sand.

You can also mix in a little bit of filler to the resin to help fill in the gaps seeing as you are painting

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:10 am 
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Jim,

What has been your process so far? How many coats of epoxy do you have on, etc...

I found I had the exact same situation on my Malahini. Your pic looked exactly like mine did at the time.

I had put probably 6 or more coats of epoxy on with the thin nap Glen-L rollers and still had those divots. My problem was not the roller, but not sanding enough...

I think the divots come from resin sucking into the glass, or bumps in the substrate. Anyhow, when you put coat over coat on top of a bumpy or divoted surface, the bump or divot translates on each coat (therefore, it looks like it's not going away). I kept thinking the more epoxy I put on, the less divots I would have. But that was wrong, and ultimately, I figured it out. I sanded, and sanded, and sanded, and sanded... until I achieved a probably 90% smooth surface, without cutting into the glass. The other 10% still had divots that I could not get out without sanding into the glass. So at that point, I used a squeegie (like pirate said) to backfill those divots, and then sanded those areas again. I proud to say, I now have a 99% smooth hull.

Hope that works for you.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:11 am 
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Oh, also, like Pirate commented on, definitely tip the surface after you roll. He suggested a roller cut in half, but you can also use a fine bristle brush, or a foam brush, as long as it doesn't chatter across the surface.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:36 am 
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I recommend tipping with a brush after rolling. It is hard to keep a roller (cut in half or a full roller fixed to a stick) from bouncing. Be careful not to sand into the cloth.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:56 am 
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On large surfaces I have never had a problem with rolling resin on with a full length roller. I also do this is stages rarely attempting to completely saturate the cloth in one shot. Just let the initial coat have some time to wet the cloth out and do a second coat to even wet the cloth completely out after having time to view what is semi starved. I also employ a solid and cured roller as my tool of choice to push areas of pooled resin into areas thats in need of it before I would even mess with any brushes. You can even employ a cemete trowel too which flattens out any resin rich areas under the glass cloth too. If you need any photos for examples of the two tools let me know. A wide flexible putty knife also works too.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:17 pm 
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I got a decent finish by rolling on the resin, then topping it with a piece of foam.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:03 pm 
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I brushed the wet out coat and squeege that after about 20 min. I do two fill coats. I sand and if a get to glass Iadd another coat.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:14 pm 
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OH, yeah......As it turns out it was elbow grease that was needed. I think I will use the squeege metheod to fill in the divots, thanks for the great tips. Its like you guys are right here next to the boat,
Jim


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:13 pm 
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I use two separate foam rollers & frames each coat. The first one is simply to apply the resin. On the second one I use piece of wire to "lock" the roller in place so it doesn't roll. After applying resin to and area I switch to the fixed roller and use a light touch to drag the resin removing the dimples and smoothing the surface. If I pay attention and and not flip it over when working, I can let it cure and reposition the roller getting 4 uses out of each before tossing it. Does a very nice job of leveling.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:57 pm 
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Bill Edmundson wrote:
I brushed the wet out coat and squeege that after about 20 min. I do two fill coats. I sand and if a get to glass Iadd another coat.

Bill


I'm curious what exact sort of squeege you use for smoothing. It sounds like a good method. Perhaps more controllable and less prone to chatter than the foam roller cut in half or "locked" with wire as mentioned elsewhere in this thread.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:15 am 
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Squeegees are on this page:

https://www.boatdesigns.com/Mixing-Cups ... ducts/280/

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:09 am 
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That's the ones. The edges can be knotched also for spreading glue.

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