Outboard Motor Choices

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Outboard Motor Choices

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:44 pm

I've been in Belize this week. I met a guy who repairs and maintains outboards here on Ambergris Caye. He said the people here really don't take care of their engines. The sand here is full of shell and coral, very abrasive. These guys run up to the dock then redline in reverse and suck up sand.

His engine choices are... 4 stroke Yamaha because they are quiet and they have a great monitoring system that will warn you of just about any problem. 2 stroke Evanrude E-TEC because they are bomb proof. They only need an occasional adjustment to the high pressure injectors.

Just thought it is interesting.

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Re: Outboard Motor Choices

Postby gdcarpenter » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:58 pm

"Old Merc's Rule"

That being cleared up my 'other' engine is an ETEC 75 HP - cannot find a thing to complain about!
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Re: Outboard Motor Choices

Postby tsmitherman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:43 am

Bill,
I've been running my Yamaha 4 stroke 115 hp on the fishing boat for 13+ years, and wouldn't buy any other brand. I had a faulty oil alarm switch early on (still under warranty), and replaced the water pump impeller once, and the spark plugs once. Other than that, just oil and lower foot grease changes.

It still runs like it did on day one!
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Re: Outboard Motor Choices

Postby darthplywood » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:07 am

i've had my 3 cylinder - 90 hp Evinrude etec for 3 years now with no problems whatsoever. I am getting ready to take it in this spring for its first scheduled maintenence. It is quite and not nearly as BIG (meaning..physically big) as its 4-stroke competitors. Not to mention the maintenance schedule for four-strokes. It gets excellent fuel economy and is low maintenance. I can't see going with anything else.

Just my opinion. To be clear, i have never owned a 4-stroke so i don't know what owning one is like but again..i highly reccommend the etec
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Re: Outboard Motor Choices

Postby Hercdrvr » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:11 pm

6 months wrestling with an old 1967 Evinrude 2 stroke, Im done. Just ordered a brand new 20 hp Yamaha 4 stroke for my Squirt. Life is way too short for engine to quit in the middle of the lake. Its like airplane engines, their expensive beacause their worth every penny of the reliability.
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Re: Outboard Motor Choices

Postby galamb » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:57 pm

I make a small part of my living rigging boats (mostly under 21 feet) and working on outboards - but not salt run motors which have their own issues because of their environment.

While I don't own, nor would I ever buy a Yamaha, they are super well built and they are one of the only mfg's that actually engineer every motor from paper to the final product (most others bolt on sourced parts). And Yamaha builds more motors than all of the other mfg's combined - that says something.

I had to opportunity to observe during the some of the initial on-water tests for the E-Tech's back a good few years ago. There were some "bugs" with the software which were quickly identified and corrected. They have become a solid motor for those (like myself) that believe the only place for a 4 stroke on any watercraft, is in the front end of the tow vehicle - at least as far as outboard motors go - so the direct injected 2 strokes are my only "new" option now. To winterize an Etec you simply "push a button" - tough to beat that.

My initial concern with the Etec's (and the now discontinued HPDI's from Yamaha) was the fact that they used uber-high pressure direct injectors (compared to the low pressure injectors found on the "joint designed" Merc's and Tohatsu's). I had a gut feel that they may tend to fail a quicker intervals than the lower pressure injectors, but now 15'ish years in, they seem to be holding up every bit as well.

And yes, the maintenance on the 4 strokes is one of my "pet peeves" - when the guys in the showroom are selling the fancy new rigs on "easy payment terms" they fail to instill in the buyer that you can't treat a 4 stroke like dad's/grand dad's old 2 stroke - neglect (as in not following the service schedule to the letter) leads to lot's of scrap metal in fairly short order.

But to be fair, the cost of parts (computers, sensors etc) for the DI 2 strokes is right up there with 4 stroke parts - and direct injected oil is just plain expensive.
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Re: Outboard Motor Choices

Postby Gayle Brantuk » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:05 am

Bill,

Thanks for the feedback and I hope you're having a great time in Belize! Sounds like retirement is going well for you :D

I plan on using the comments on this thread for an article on the Glen-L Blog because they are so good. If anyone is opposed to that, please let me know. And Graham, I'd also like to use your comments on jet vs outboard. As always, the Glen-L Forum members are so helpful and gracious with their knowledge...

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Postby galamb » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:41 pm

Go ahead and use the post Gail - I'll be famous :lol:
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Re: Outboard Motor Choices

Postby travis24 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:47 pm

I'm with GD on this one!

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