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Well what ya got?

I'm looking for what everyone uses for stain? I was going to use oil based until I read about adhesion issues with resin.....
Has anyone found something decent to use at the box stores? I've tried a few of the samples from HD but they just don't look nautical to me on the SYP I have. Ok for a house but not nice enough for a boat.

I used the Minwas oil based stain. You just have to seal it in with CPES and you will not have any troubles. It will take at least 3 coats , 4 is better. It has to be totally sealed

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Dave

My Riviera build - the Midnight Cry Project

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Few things in the world measure up to the thrill and satisfaction of boating in a boat that you built.

This is a quote from my thread about what I used.

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Patrick Morais
~ Lo Voltage ~
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Why stain? Guess it's the 'carpenter' in gdcarpenter that wants the true nature of the wood to show - but did you say you were using syp? To me that means Southern Yellow Pine - is this just for decking?

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One thing to remember about staining... it makes it very difficult to make "invisible" repairs... After I stained and epoxied, there were several places where I sanded through. Those sand-thrus were "natural" spots that needed to be touched up with stain before repairing. Despite taking utmost care, those stain touch-ups are visible on their edges.

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Bruce.

~~ Do what you love, and love what you do. ~~
~~ To me - only my boat is not yet perfect. Everybody else's is to be admired for I know the path they have walked (Dave Lott, 2010) ~~
Dow's Monaco Project

You have not done enough repairs yet have you Bruce.

That would be a good thing.

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Dave

My Riviera build - the Midnight Cry Project

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Few things in the world measure up to the thrill and satisfaction of boating in a boat that you built.

Thanks guys, Keep them coming.
Yes I'm using some southern yellow pine, which doesn't darken down as much, or much at all, as I hoped when covered by resin and glass. The pieces I am staining though aren't decking, just some accent pieces like a grab bar, stake out cap, and maybe a poling platform. In some areas it needs to be glassed for strength.

If you have access to a decent boat building supplier you can take a look at the results simply from using different resin/hardener combinations.

Up my way Noah's (most Canadians will have heard of them) have a big board set up (like the display big box stores have to show you what a certain stain will look like on wood), but theirs is for resin/hardener combinations.

You can get anything from "totally natural" to quite dark with a bunch in between.

I was looking for a somewhat (lighter/natural) colour on my African Mahogany. I had intended on using a West 105/207 combination (because I have been using West and that is their recommendation for natural finish), but after seeing how dark it made the wood I opted for EAST 1032/834 which was the (clearest) combination I could see.

So you might be able to get a satisfactory result, without the added step of staining, just by experimenting a touch with epoxy.

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Graham

Yes, Plywood is "real" wood

A "professional" is someone who gets paid for their work - it doesn't necessarily mean they are good at it

Bartleys gel stain works well, at least on mahogany. I used it with no ill effects under the epoxy resin. Wipe it off well and let it sit a few days before coating.

Roberta

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Roberta
Built Zip "Oliver IV" and Super Spartan "Jimmy 70"

Has anyone used the "filler" stains? I had used mahagony filler stain on a previous project and had great results.

Thanks guys I have been playing with samples. I finally found one I really like, it's minwax wipe on water based stain in mohogany color. I coated it with resin and then polyurethane to see what it looks like and it is almost exactly what I wanted.

I have used the Chris Craft filler stain and like it just fine. It evens out the colors of the wood when I had different shades. It also stained the plywood so it matched the mahogany pretty good. Be cautious if you are going to put epoxy over it as you will need to seal it well with CPES first. Dave Lott feels as many as 4 coats of CPES may be needed.

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John Amundsen
Monte Carlo
Winter Haven, FL

Maybe it will be done by G6 and maybe not.

I was under the impression that CPES was only needed if you use oil based stain? Which is why I went with the water based.

Sorry Yes mine was an oil stain.

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John Amundsen
Monte Carlo
Winter Haven, FL

Maybe it will be done by G6 and maybe not.

ok cool, thanks