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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:50 am 
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hi track--following up on what Neel said pictorially. I couldn't figure out how to do that "thick board bend" either. it was just asking too much of a single piece of wood. so here's what I did. I ran the finishing boards all the way to the transom. I built the back transom bridge supports. covered those with three thin sheets of plywood. over THAT I glued a thin board to the plywood that looked like the thick bent board called for in the plans. then proceeded to the deck planking.


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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:05 am 
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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:42 pm 
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Glenn, just to follow up on Trisailors method, I basically did the same thing. One difference is that I also used the plywood approach on the side covering boards. I had to kerf both layers for about the last four feet or so in order to get them to lay down on the sharp curve meeting the transom. I also used two layers of Okume for the transom band board. This trim along with the side covering boards will be skinned with 1/8" mahogany as was done on the side and bottom planking. My mahogany deck planking will be 3/8" thick and will meet up with all of this. At least that is the plan....Here are a few pics....Neel


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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:49 pm 
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I will do something similar to TriSailor I think. I was trying to be clever, but that don't seem to work :oops: .
One piece over the majority of the top as Neel said, then maybe a piece on each side cut to suit the curve from a piece bent as much as it will stand. The aim is to avoid end grain as I see it, and avoid obvious joins as well.

I didn't show it, but I have steamed about half of the finishing timbers themselves. I am just steaming the forard 6 feet where it curves around the bow area. They are pretty well the right curve, but is is interesting to see some parts that didn't bend evenly as the grain changes. I am sure they wil pull in ok as long as I get the outer one to sit nicely first.

I have to say, this has been the most frustrating part of the journey so far, but it is all self inflicted. :D

Edit: Oh, and Red I will try a soak just for fun before I give up totally on one piece bend... :)

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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:11 pm 
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Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. Building Gentry.
Some piccies of exhaust bits and pieces.
4" is a massive pipe. It looks pretty cool, but fitting it all in.......
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I also gotta fit 2 of these...
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To run those massive pipes down the sides and not have them impinge into the seating area, I cut away the frames. To keep the strength and have a bit more surface area to sit the pipes in I added a doubler each side, glued and screwed.
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You can see the muffler sitting across the frames for reference. The frames are 26". I will "just" have room from the transom outlets to the muffler for a reducer which has become necessary as I can't get nice 4" outlets.

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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:25 pm 
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Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia. Building Gentry.
These are a pair of saddles made to mount the oil cooler on the frames instead of its previous unreachable home under the engine.
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This is the oil cooler in question. The short section cools the engine oil, the longer section cools the Velvet transmission drive oil.
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Of note is that the manufacturer put the oil entry and exit point downwards. I personally think this is incorrect as it will allow an air pocket at the top of the cooler. I have flipped it over to correct this, but now the drain plug is also on top. Winterising is not a problem here, but it may be if she ever gets shipped to a colder climate.

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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:40 am 
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It takes a lot of "head scratching" to figure out how to pack it all into the Gentry !! It looks like you have it figured out. She looks great...I haven't posted pictures lately of my progress because it looks the same now as before. The difference is that all wiring, steering, plumbing, etc. has been installed. Also, the rear cockpit seat boxes and seat back are ready to go in as well as the floor panels and firewall. The exhaust was definately a challenge, but mine is in and not coming out !! I am going to start the motor sometime this week. I can't wait. Now to finish the decking. It is great to see your progress. Keep it up...... Neel


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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:54 am 
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Wow Track - Looking exceptionally well

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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:55 am 
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Beautiful work!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:34 pm 
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Been beavering away in between trying to make that pesky "transom bow fit". My Mate Al turned the Glen-L 3 1/2" trumpets down smooth and machined up a couple adapter sleeves from bronze to take the 3 1/2" out to fit 4" exhaust hose. They will have sealant applied and 3 countersunk screws around the outside to hold them in place. He also turned up a couple of mahogany transom surrounds for me which have been glued onto the the transom. We just didn't like the look of the trumpets pointing outwards so these make them point pretty much fore and aft. I have a photo of both trumpets in place but it just doesn't do justice to how they really look so I won't put it up.
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Also remote mounted the oil filters on a frame and fitted some pipework for the raw water system. Ordered a Mercrusier engine electrical extension cable to cut up for the wiring to the dashboard instruments etc. It was the cheapest way to get a mating plug for the 10 pin (that actually has only 9 pins???) engine connector. We are hopeful of having a start this weekend. If I can get a video camera I might have a go at filming it, but don't hold your breath on that as I don't know anybody who has one.

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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:20 pm 
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OK, I'll post it anyway. It looks much cooler in the flesh though.
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My mind is doing somersaults at present. Trying to fit a fuel tank behind the seat with plenty of capacity yet not cutting into leg space in the seating area is "interesting". I want to fit the remote fuel filler center to get the height above the tank for the rubber connection hose, but being practical maybe it should be closer to the drivers side so as to be easily reachable from dockside or trailerside. I have a choice between a standard plastic tank at about 100L or a custom made at more like 125L. The custom made one would have an extended bottom to fit down between the frames and this could be utilised as a reserve tank with a second pickup and a changeover valve. About $400 plastic, $600-700 standard aluminium rectangle, $700-800 with extended bottom. Either one I have to be careful with the top deck as I don't want the "step" that is standard in the plans and I need maximum height to connect the remote filler. I guess the breather can sit beside the filler or come to the transom. I am trying to source stainless steel pipe to make a permanent fule pipe to somewhere near the engine rather than have a complete rubber run, but there seems to be precious little information unless you are building a dragster...

I am also starting to wonder where I will fit safety equipment like fire extinguisher which must be at hand as well as flares, life jackets, mandatory oars (those I think will clip up under engine hatch). Gotta fit the throttle assembly on the side and the seat must be removable to get at the tank, rudder tiller arm etc. and has to fit in between those massive exhaust hoses/mufflers. Also have to put the fuel shutoff accessible right near the tank, and the raw water strainer needs to be accessible whilst in the water I guess. Center foot panel will have to be removable to get at tranny dipstick and filler, not so difficult.


Ahhh, the things your mind concentrates on while at work... ;)

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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:35 pm 
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Looking Awesome!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: My Gentry build
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:07 am 
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Hey Glenn,,, She looks really nice. I know what you are mentally going through, and almost all of your concerns were mine a short wihile ago... As far as the fuel tank goes, Mine is exactly 26" wide and fits between the stringers and sits right down on the keel. The top of the tank is about three inches or so below the aft deck. You could have one made the same height and width as mine, but adjust the length so it would fit behind your seat back and forward of the tiller arm. The one I have holds 40 gallons, but if I were to have one made, I think I would go with 25 to 30. By cutting a little off of the top of frame #1, I am able to slide the tank forward, over the frame for removal. I just had to make the front support for the aft deck removable as well. I don't really have a good picture of this, but I will post a bad one just so you can get the idea. The fuel fill will be about 8" to the right of centerline. The fuel fill I bought is a combo fill and vent all in one, eliminating the need for another hole in the side of the boat. I ended up with quite a bit of storage under the seat, but I also have the "mother in law" seat area up front, which will probably end up as a storage area for most stuff. Good luck, and keep up the good work. Love the exhaust !! Neel

PS. I can build a boat, but have no clue how to change the date on my camera !!!!


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