Michael's ZIP

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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby JimmY » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:34 am

Very nice.
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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby JoeM » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:16 am

Very nice work. Can't wait to see how the panel comes out when put together with all the gauges. Happy New Year!
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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby BarnacleMike » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:33 pm

Thank you, guys!

Today, I finished up work on the cherry dash inlay. I temporarily assembled the switches and the gauges I have, in order to get an idea for what I'm in for as far as wiring. I also clamped it together to get an idea for how it's going to look...
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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby joshuab » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:40 pm

Awesome! Looks beautiful.
I cut twice and it's still too short :mrgreen:

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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby Hercdrvr » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:21 pm

Your boat is a beautiful work of art.
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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby BayouBengal » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:41 pm

You sir, are a master of "simple elegance"

Looks teriffic!!! :D

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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby BarnacleMike » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:33 am

Thank you, guys! That's a great compliment, because I've seen two of your boats, and Joshua I've watched all your videos... and you guys are TRUE craftsmen! So, thank you.

Well, as you know, I'm doing a good bit of dash work a bit earlier than is normally done. I'm on the verge of buying a helm, and have more-or-less decided on a NFB rotary from Teleflex. My big question is whether the 3 turns lock-to-lock or the 4.2 is the better option? The Safe-T II with the 3 turns is a little less expensive, but would 3 turns make the boat too responsive / over-sensitive to movement at the steering wheel?

Joshua, I also wanted to ask... on your boat, what is the distance from the centerline of the deck to the centerline of the steering wheel?
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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby joshuab » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:53 pm

I will measure when i get home tonight after work.
I cut twice and it's still too short :mrgreen:

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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby joshuab » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:14 pm

13 1/2" from the center of my king plank to the center of the helm unit. (Thirteen and a half)
I cut twice and it's still too short :mrgreen:

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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby BarnacleMike » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:12 pm

Perfect! Thank you!

Looking ahead to the next stage in the process, I just purchased a large piece of 8/4 mahogany for the keel and some other longitudinal parts. The board, however, is just short of 10' long. The Zip bill of materials calls for a 12' keel. So, I'm going to need to join lengths in order to get that.

That's okay, because I have long-considered laminating the keel anyway in order to make the bend into the stem easier. Here is the outline of my plan. I wanted to ask for feedback from anyone who has done something similar. Perhaps there is a better way to do this?

My plan is to rip the board into 1/2" thick x 4" wide lengths. I'd then cut these lengths into 3', 5', 7' and 9' sections.

I'd start by butt-joining the 3' and 9' section, with the joint backed by the 5' section. I'd fasten this onto the frames, and bend the forward end (only 1/2" thick) into the stem and fasten it into place. Once the epoxy on that cured, I'd laminate the 7' piece into place, bending it to match with a lot of clamps.
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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby Bill Edmundson » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:44 pm

Michael

That is what I did. Make joint back in the flat area. A butt plate over the first splice is a good idea. the outside planking will reinforce the outer layer of the keel.

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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby vupilot » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:39 pm

I think either steering is going to be fine Mike. I dont think you can get too sensitive. I do wish mine was a little more sensitive.

By the way your Utility article is in the yearly print edition of Small Boats Monthly on newstands now.

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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby BarnacleMike » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:17 pm

vupilot wrote:
By the way your Utility article is in the yearly print edition of Small Boats Monthly on newstands now.


Cool! Is this the same edition as your Tango Skiff article? I looked for it last time I was at Barnes & Noble, but they didn't have it at the time.
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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby BarnacleMike » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:23 am

I made next to zero physical progress on the boat in January, but I did buy a few components. I just ordered a fuel gauge (abandoning my original plan for a depth sounder), and a Teleflex / Sea Star Safe T II rotary helm & bezel.

Soon, I'll need to tackle ripping and re-sawing that huge 2" mahogany board I bought (and broke my windshield with). I'm trying to plan ahead, and decide on how I'm going to re-saw this thing without spending too much money on new tools. (I need that money to replace the windshield.)

I've considered a table saw, band saw, and even a Roubo frame saw. A band saw seems like the safest and simplest option. However, the ones in my price range have a maximum 3.5" cut. So, if I go that route, I'll have to use a 3.5" wide keel instead of the 4", as called for in the plans.

I tend to think this wouldn't be a problem... particularly if I use 3 floor battens per side. Any input on that, or on how to affordably re-saw the board, would be appreciated. Thanks!
-Michael

Built Utility "Perseverance" — completed Aug 2016
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Re: Michael's ZIP

Postby hoodman » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:15 am

Mike you can resaw safely with a table saw. Do a 2" depth rip. Flip your piece over and cut from the other side. This is much easier than trying to split the thing in half all at once. You'll lose more with the kerf of the blade compared to a band saw but if you already have a table saw just know that it can do the job safely. If you need a good blade the Irwin Marples combo blade at Lowes is what I use and have had good experiences with. It's resharpenable to.


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