Matt's Geronimo

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby vupilot » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:00 pm

On the Zip, which gives less room to work with, I made those holes about as big as I dared without them being so big that I thought it might compromise the strength. Hope you are settled and enjoying your new home in Lafayette.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby bobinpowayca » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:58 pm

Howdy Matt, well I don't have an answer on the hole size but looks like we're at the same point on the same design. Here's a picture of where I'm at on my Geronimo. Forward of frame 5 I put in a 3/8 ply deck and foamed in place underneath. Between frames 4 and 5 I basically did the same, I put a partition under the center batten then foamed each side. These decks are glued and screwed on, I don't expect to have to remove them in my lifetime :lol: Between frame 4 and the bulkhead I am just going to paint all surfaces and screw the two side floor panels on with no glue or foam underneath. Maybe the removable center panel I'll try the inserts.
But about those holes - picture shows starboard side, my steering will be on the left, but also on that side I have already doe the carling and coaming. So I need to drill these holes. I expect all my steering and motor controls will go thru the same holes. As far as how HIGH I will make the holes, I think about as high as I can comfortably reach up and make a good cut. Hopefully the center of the hole at about the bottom of the carling, which would be a good height for the controls and steering (I think - need to check on control location).
As far as hole size, I'm thinking 2 1/2 inches.
Hey how about a nice little wood burning stove in your garage? Also you'll be needing a TV out there. Bob
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:24 am

This is the first chance I've had in a while to show any actual noticeable progress. I am working on encapsulating the interior of the hull. Previously I have just been cleaning up excess glue. I'm not going to clean up everything that will end up being covered up by the floor. I have a lot of squeeze out along the battens and I just don't think it's worth it to clean all that up. I have to draw the line somewhere.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby JimmY » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:23 am

Glad to see you back at it.

I would just make sure there are no voids or drips along the battens that would trap water.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:36 am

It's good to be back at it! I need to hustle to get on the water next summer, but I think it's doable. And good thought, Jim. However, I think even the worst of it wont trap any water.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby mrintense » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:32 am

Matt, I can fully appreciate what you are going through. I had to do this last summer when it was blazing and it was all I could do to make myself do it. It's fun to see the picture you posted. It looks just like mine. I hope you can get the boat in the water by next summer. You and Bob in California and we'll have two more nice boats to look at.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby bobinpowayca » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:45 pm

Hi Matt, good to see you're back working on your boat. I didn't worry about glue runs that won't be seen either. You're right saying "I've got to draw the line somewhere"! I'm a perfectionist too but I also want to use this boat and it's so easy to get bogged down in the details. It's a boat - not a piece of furniture :D I remember when I was building the Glen-L 17 in the early 80's I called Glen-L many times asking for advice - once I called to ask if something I was doing would put the boat off balance (not floating vertically!) and I guess he thought I was obsessing over nothing and told me "Hey, it's a boat - you could put a fireplace in it and it'll still float okay!" Of course he was exaggerating. Also I remember when I launched it first time down at the harbor, some bum living on a derelict boat yelled out "Gee, it looks like a piece of furniture!", which I don't think was a compliment.. Bob
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby Hercdrvr » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:16 am

Good to see your back to having fun building, because it’s not work. Your boat looks great! I have inverted drips all along the interior of the chine, it hasn’t been much of a distraction from the fun factor yet.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:26 am

Some of you probably wonder if I gave up. I have not. I am pretty much done encapsulating the interior. I fixed the one seat that got damaged on the trip up here last spring and both seats have a coat of epoxy and will be ready for some type of clear coat soon, probably varnish. I have also cut out the intermediate deck beam and other front deck parts. I need to pick out a dash beam from my pile of sapele. I'll post some pictures soon when there's more to look at.

My motivation comes from the fact that it's pretty much February and believe it or not it wont be long until it's warm again outside and I would really like to get this boat in the water before it gets cold again this fall. Of course, if I finish the boat this December I'll just drive South until it's warm enough to launch! I even talked to a guy at a dealer yesterday about an engine...

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby Bill Edmundson » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:49 am

Matt

I expect to see it in September!

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:19 am

Bill Edmundson wrote:Matt

I expect to see it in September!

Bill


You got it, Bill! That sounds like a great goal. I can't wait to run it up and down that river!

I really need some help. I can't figure out how the deck beam and battens are supposed to attach to the sheers. The plans show and talk about some blocking but it's pretty vague. If anyone has some pictures of what they did I would really appreciate it.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby PeterG » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:44 am

Matt, for the deck beam you might try some "knees" or corner blocks that are somewhat triangle shaped and have two faces: one that attaches to the sheers and one that the deck beam attaches to. I intend to use this approach for my Malahini which will have two deck beams. I would attach the block to the sheer first and then attach the deck beam to the block. For the battens attaching to sheers, I have seen u-shaped or notched blocks attached to the sheers, or shallow notches in the sheer, to catch the battens, or even just butted the battens to the sheer and a screw through the edge of the batten into the sheer. Have a look at billyc's Belle Isle project for ideas.
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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby Jimbob » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:48 am

Hi Matt,
hoodman wrote:I really need some help. I can't figure out how the deck beam and battens are supposed to attach to the sheers. The plans show and talk about some blocking but it's pretty vague. If anyone has some pictures of what they did I would really appreciate it.


In answer to you question, I had to add some blocking for deck beams on my boat that go between the seats because there was no frame there and I wanted additional support in case someone sat on it. If you look at the picture, you can see where I epoxied a block to the hull and the batten. The deck beam rests on that.

Hope I understood your question, and that this helps.

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby hoodman » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:14 pm

Thanks fellas, that gives me some ideas. I'm sure it will all become clear once I start setting everything into place (as everything has thus far).

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Re: Another Geronimo Coming Soon

Postby DSR » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:55 pm

Hi Matt,

I'm glad that your Geronimo build is still going and I can't wait to see it! (Hopefully this September in person if I can make down)

Did you decide on a motor for it?

Thanks :D
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