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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:31 pm 
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So I take it that the chines sprung out from frame number 3? Do you have a shot looking down from the same angle that showed your issue from before? Those numbers aren't bad and can be spaced out with some wedges. As I stated earlier, the chine takes a shape as what is known in navigation as the great circle. A hard point will interupt this, add this to the fact that the chine is fixed with it being glued. So moving around frames only creates a disfigured hull or in your case the pontoon. The running distance cannot be changed but the shape of the existing piece can be when its glued in place by the angles of attack which is done by the ends of the frames..


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:09 pm 
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You are correct, they sprang out and slightly up. Been trying to upload a overhead shot, but bucket doesn't like me right now. Hey I think I'm getting the picture now. Angle the spacers, keeping the back side my needed distance and angling toward the bow.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:52 am 
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Bruce Dow wrote:
I think that if you use the temporary bracing, as recommended, everything will stay true once you get the plywood on the bottom.

Also... if you brace before you laminate, the lamination will help keep things straighter.



Chip-
what an improvement over the first picts! :)
as Bruce suggested earlier.... before the plywood goes on add those temporary braces as needed to keep things true
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:37 am 
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That looks much better. With the chine secured to the stem, you will probably get no more out. It still looks as though the angle on the last frame still needed to be tweaked a bit foward and less upright for the suttle twist thats required to make that turn in. But the chine is not workable now with the fixed point. While a temporary brace across the bottom will hold in place, you will need to wedge out the previoue frame along the side frame. The more important aspect now is to make sure that the rise up from the bottom plane does not get built into the bottom.

Now read this one twice. When you install the side plywood, press down a bit and secure the chine to the plywood. Here is also where you will find that the plywood will or should take the rest of the dish out, enough that you can now figure out the additional shim on the number 3 frame too. If you do not like the shape of the running chine area after you have secured the plywood in the rough fit to the chines, then just leave the area across the dish loose with a temporary fasterner run into the chine and back fill that area with thickened epoxy glue when you glue up and let it cure for a glue shim out. Remove the fastener though if the fastener is a sacrifical fastener before your glue truely cures. Do this in the green stage of the epoxy so it does not sheer off which happens sometimes if you attempt to do this after its hardened up.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:06 am 
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Thanks Guys,

I know this is only a pontoon, but I want to get it right. Was going to build my grandsons two more small stitch n glue boats. They are next. When my wife said she wanted a pontoon, I jumped on it. Been wanting to build with a frame and this was my chance to get my feet wet. Now whats next. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:25 am 
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Grand Chillin wrote:
Thanks Guys,

I know this is only a pontoon, but I want to get it right. Was going to build my grandsons two more small stitch n glue boats. They are next. When my wife said she wanted a pontoon, I jumped on it. Been wanting to build with a frame and this was my chance to get my feet wet. Now whats next. :)

I think the more you are exposed to building "unsquare", the more that your exposure will help you along the way in time and quality of the next build. The key is not make the same mistake twice. A person should also do their part to learn from other peoples mistakes, because its a guarantee that you will not live long enough to learn from all the mistakes that exists. :lol: Keep us alerted with your progress.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:01 pm 
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Oyster,
Thanks again. Yeah, if its square building get out of my way and let me at it. Short story on the need for a pontoon. Had to repair the dam on the pond behind our house about four years ago. So you know how it goes, while the pond was drained I was looking and studing. Then it hit me, we need a fixed dock. Got to planning and it keep growing. Ended up with it end being 34' x 24'. 26' of the 34' covered, including a 10' x 20' covered boat slip. Had already been looking at aluminum pontoon kits. Never got around to buying one. Thankfully, or I wouldn't be having all this fun now! Enter wife, why did you build that cover for a boat and only have your old pond boat in there. I want that pontoon so I can take my Dad fishing. So here I am kicking and screaming doing a honey-do. :lol:
Speaking of fishing I have noticed that you do your fair share of salt water fishing. If you are ever in my area of South Carolina and want to do some unbelievable fresh water fishing just let me know.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:07 pm 
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Oh, by the way don't tell anybody else about that fishing invitation. :wink: Or we might have to take everybody else.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:35 am 
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Thats one heck of a story. But it does sound as if she is one cool mamma! FWIW, my honeydo list is long and has never been completely scratched through. And always has at the top of the list is taking my honey fishing. There has only been a handfull of occasions of almost four decades that I fish by myself, case closed. That is one honeydo that will and must not go undone.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:14 pm 
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That list is job security man. I will hate to remove this one from mine. Yes, she is one cool mamma. I bet your's is too. They have to be to put up with us. :wink:

One other thing, I bet I know who the skipper is when you take your honey fishing. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:31 pm 
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Yes the queen has her special throne seat in the skiff for sure and gives me hand signals to where to go when the fish are not biting too. :lol: Speaking of fish, this is an example of some time killing entertainment. We let the temps warm up today and went for couple of hours and caught a few fish few dinners, speckled trout. We did keep a couple of smaller ones with the legal limit of 14 inches. But the others were decent sized. I love winter time boating as most of the yahoos are too pansy to be out on the waters. 8)


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:10 pm 
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Looks like she knows where to go. I get you about the yahoos. As I have mentioned before we have a place just north of Beaufort, SC. Right at the end of the Marine Air Station. I think the jets use our dock to line up for landing. We are on a creek about 200 yards from the ICW. Don't get down there as much as I would like, but this is the time of year to be on the water. BTW I have heard some of the people that have moved down there complain about the noise, we just refer them to a sign at the entrance to the base. "THAT SOUND YOU HEAR IS THE SOUND OF FREEDOM"

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:45 pm 
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Grand Chillin wrote:
Looks like she knows where to go. I get you about the yahoos. As I have mentioned before we have a place just north of Beaufort, SC. Right at the end of the Marine Air Station. I think the jets use our dock to line up for landing. We are on a creek about 200 yards from the ICW. Don't get down there as much as I would like, but this is the time of year to be on the water. BTW I have heard some of the people that have moved down there complain about the noise, we just refer them to a sign at the entrance to the base. "THAT SOUND YOU HEAR IS THE SOUND OF FREEDOM"

I know exactly where you are located. I delivered yachts down the ICW and when they began to put the docks in and we had to or at least I did slow down, we would miss the bridge opening many times at the town bridge. In the fall of the year this would create some issues when attempting to make Hilton Head for dinner if we had guests on board.

As far as the jets an noise, you dang right, I say kick in the after burners and use their training too. I salute each and every one every time I see on. In the Pamlico Sound the jets from Cherry Point use to "fill my shorts" when they would be practicing in the bombing range and be returning to the base. You did not hear or see them coming when looking ahead and two or more of the planes would split off along side at wharped speed of the boat and then the noise would rattle the windows ans rattle my nerves too. I say to the dang yankees that move into a military area and gripe, I tell them the road that allowed them to arrive will also allow them to return too. Most roads into an area are not one way, or none that I have experienced anyway.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:58 pm 
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Hilton Head, yachts. You were heading for Harbor Town.

Check these fish out.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C12xvAfyCo0

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