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 Post subject: Question on plans
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:11 pm 
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I have the plans for the IMP and I see it states the transom is beveled at 10 degrees but, I have no clue what this means exactly. Looking at the plans I am confused on this point. Not sure if the slant is from front to back or back to front or inside or outside or... :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Question on plans
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:30 pm 
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The transom is tilted backwards...in other words,the bottom of the transom is farther forward than the top

Set the transom on the table straight up,and tilt the top back 10 degress

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 Post subject: Re: Question on plans
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:18 pm 
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Nice place you got there Ted. I can smell the Barbecue from here! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Question on plans
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:08 pm 
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Yeah, it had a definite blackened smell to it. We saved most of the building. Owner was happy with us. I thought the irony of the sign out front was strange looking.
I`m still lost on the bevel. In other words the form shows the forms flat and the transom flat.
Do I build the transom normal and square and then lean it forward 12 degrees when fastening it? Or do I build it straight and then bevel the entire bottom 12 degrees on the table saw and then anchor the transom 12 degree beveled edge to floor for the form as I tried to show here in my amazing art work?


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 Post subject: Re: Question on plans
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:19 pm 
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there should be a detailed drawing or full pattern on the transom in the case of my plans they call for 12% angle on the transom in the building form pattern it shows how to attach it to the form and brace it into place.

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 Post subject: Re: Question on plans
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:52 pm 
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I'd like to see your plans to be sure, but on my Gentry the transom is vertical, however the boat is wider (and higher) in the middle than it is at the transom. This means that the transom edge gets bevelled at an angle to match the line of the planking going forward. If you look down on the plan of your boat, you will see what I mean. The sides angle outwards, probably at 12 degrees.

Edit : Just checked out the Imp photos. The transom is angled backwards, therefore the bottom edge of the transom will need to be bevelled at this angle for the bottom sheeting to fit. Note that on Gentry they showed the "inside" line on the plans so when you mark the timber, you must allow extra for the outwards bevel. I drew the angle on a piece of timber then measured the amount and marked at that. You set your jigsaw over at 12 degrees to cut the angle, but they tend to wander so leave a little to clean it up.

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 Post subject: Re: Question on plans
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:18 pm 
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UGH :(
That sounds like a good explanation, but I got lost.
That kind of explanation needs hand drawings, scanned and included.

I'm about to start my little Jon, and I am trying to keep away from pitfalls by learning from the forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Question on plans
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:19 pm 
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thudpucker wrote:
UGH :(
That sounds like a good explanation, but I got lost.
That kind of explanation needs hand drawings, scanned and included.

I'm about to start my little Jon, and I am trying to keep away from pitfalls by learning from the forum.


It's not really complicated, just hard to explain. I'll see if I can do a drawing, but grab a bit of scrap wood and sit it vertical on a flat surface, then lean it over 12 degrees. See how at the bottom there is now a gap one side??? That is where you bevel the edge (cut it at angle) so that the edge meets with no gap.
Edit - Simple picture of a bevel.

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 Post subject: Re: Question on plans
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:29 pm 
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Yeah, it had a definite blackened smell to it. We saved most of the building. Owner was happy with us. I thought the irony of the sign out front was strange looking.
I`m still lost on the bevel. In other words the form shows the forms flat and the transom flat.
Do I build the transom normal and square and then lean it forward 12 degrees when fastening it? Or do I build it straight and then bevel the entire bottom 12 degrees on the table saw and then anchor the transom 12 degree beveled edge to floor for the form as I tried to show here in my amazing art work?

Normally on plans with an angle cut on an edge, your measurement thats shown is usually the long point. Then the angle is cut from that point. Then you sit the transom on that angle with either stiff knees or on strongbacks with the angle cut on the edge. We also wait until the transom is in place and then plane the edge with the given angle which is taken from the chine battens or any other battens thats in place.

Your drawing? Well, I am more confused than normal, if thats possible.


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