Tahoe 23 project, Norway

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Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Toivo » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:12 am

Greetings!

After studying the different models, I've decided to go for the 23 feet Tahoe. I really like the double cockpit up front, and the deeper freeboard compared to the 19 footer.

I'm working on finding a place indoors for the build, and I have a couple of alternatives. One of them is a lot better than the other, so i really hope I'll come to an agreement with the owner there.

When it comes to structure materials, I see most of you guys use mahogany for sheers, chine and battens, stem etc. solid mahogany is really expensive here, but I have good access to spruce. And I've seen some projects where spruce have been used. Is there any strength issues I should think of here? Or will the epoxy stiffen the wood so it wont be an issue?

Next step is to set up a budget, and then order the plans!
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Hercdrvr » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:42 am

Wasn't the biggest wooden airplane ever built made of Spruce? Sounds like a fine choice of wood for a boat.
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by PeterG » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:17 am

To answer you, yes spruce is a good material, have a look at the Glen-L Bill Of Materials for the Tahoe 23:

http://www.glen-l.com/designs/hankinson ... 3-bom.html

Some other recommended woods are Douglas Fir, African mahogany such as Khaya Ivorensis, Utile or Sipo, and white oak. You can also look at traditional boat building woods where you live, they should be a great choice for you too.
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Toivo » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:00 am

PeterG wrote:To answer you, yes spruce is a good material, have a look at the Glen-L Bill Of Materials for the Tahoe 23:

http://www.glen-l.com/designs/hankinson ... 3-bom.html

Some other recommended woods are Douglas Fir, African mahogany such as Khaya Ivorensis, Utile or Sipo, and white oak. You can also look at traditional boat building woods where you live, they should be a great choice for you too.
Thanks for the material list. Makes it so easy to budget :) Here we traditionally build wooden boats inspired by the way the vikings did. Keel and frame out of oak and hull out of pine (picture), but I think oak is gonna be too heavy for this boat. Another thing is; will the epoxy adhesive sufficient on oak?

Another alternative is aspen. Lots of it here.
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Toivo » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:21 pm

I'm reading the material list, and wondering what deck clamps is. Seems to be something else than deck battens? And I need 200 feet of it.
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by TomB » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:20 pm

Toivo,

Welcome to the forum. Deck clamps are the layer of boards running on top of the sheer clamps. The deck clamps provide support for the outboard edge of the deck. They are shown in the details on the template drawing.

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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Toivo » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:39 pm

TomB wrote:Toivo,

Welcome to the forum. Deck clamps are the layer of boards running on top of the sheer clamps. The deck clamps provide support for the outboard edge of the deck. They are shown in the details on the template drawing.

Tom
Thank you! How can that be as much as 150 feets? Are they gonna be laminated in very many layers?
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Brad Tucker » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:07 pm

I don't have my plans in front of me, but yes, there are several layers of deck clamps. Welcome to the forum! I'm currently finishing a Tahoe23. The plans will show them in cross section. If I recall, there are 4 layers up front and 3 layers aft of ~the windshield.

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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Toivo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:21 am

Brad Tucker wrote:I don't have my plans in front of me, but yes, there are several layers of deck clamps. Welcome to the forum! I'm currently finishing a Tahoe23. The plans will show them in cross section. If I recall, there are 4 layers up front and 3 layers aft of ~the windshield.
I've followed your project, and she's turning out stunning! That's the look I'm going for :)

Another thing in the material list. It says 1120 sq. ft. veneer and/or plywood for the hull and deck. I recon that is two layers of plywood and one layer of veneer combined? I.e. total amount of plywood and veneer?
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Toivo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:27 am

This is my inspiration for the interior. I really want this front cockpit single seat style where the front seats are kind of integrated in the deck plus cut out for easy access to the sofa behind :)


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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Bill Edmundson » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:38 am

Toivo

Butch Barto's boat is good choice for inspiration.

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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Toivo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:50 am

Bill Edmundson wrote:Toivo

Butch Barto's boat is good choice for inspiration.

Bill
Is there a worklogg of his project somewhere? I'd like to see some pictures of the process!
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Bill Edmundson » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:03 am

Toivo

Butch doesn't have a log on-line. But, if you check the link below, for the Tahoe that I built, it's the same process.

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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Toivo » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:54 am

I've read your log already ;) Looks clean!

I'm measuring out the place I'm gonna build my boat. How wide are the widest part of the 23 foot?
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Re: Tahoe 23 project, Norway

Post by Bill Edmundson » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:16 am

Toivo

The beam is 6'9" or 2m. Another 2m would be nice. You can get by with a little less. But, it will add some challenges.

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