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Feex
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OK, I'm going to finally start by build thread after getting all of the frames assembled and the motor stringers cut and notched, the stem and breasthook put together and the transom parts cut out. I'll post pics soon, but nothing you haven't seen before.

Observation about frame nails. I ran out of 1 1/4" nails by the time I got to #7. The way I read the instructions was 5 nails per frame member/gusset. That means 5 in the bottom frame member and five in the side frame member on EACH side. Nice and strong. However, as I reviewed builder's photos, I see a lot of builds with just five nails per gusset per side. That would explain why I ran out of nails, but am I the only one that reads the instructions this way? 5 min per frame member/gusset. Not 5 min. per gusset.

On the transom camber board attachment to the plywood, I see the use of pocket screws threading into the plywood. Wouldn't it be better to screw through the plywood into the hardwood of the camber board? The only risk I see with that approach is if you had to remove a camber board after the front frame pieces were installed, the screws would be covered. Maybe the camber boards are not a strength issue? That's my plan for now.

Also noticed some gussets that were assembled with screws had them plugged. I don't think it's a good idea to CSINK into plywood that deep, enough to plug them. Loosing significant ply strength. Just my $0.02. Not an issue with the ring nails.

When you beveled the transom frame boards the 12 degrees, did you also bevel the plywood (to the rear of the transom), or does the bevel start at the plywood interface of the frame board?

More to come!

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specialk
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I used a lot of stainless steel screws...
Keep in mind ..you will probably encapsulate all the frames with epoxy I did on my flats flyer...
BTW...i live in Port St. John....
Kelly...1st Boat...Flats Flyer
2nd Boat.....?

Feex
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No SS screws!!
I'm in Indialantic.

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Bluesman
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I used ~ 5 per frame member, so 9 or 10 per gusset and I didn't run out.

Transom - I think I biscuit joined the frames, then epoxy & ring nailed the plywood to the frame, it's not going anywhere.

The camber board is where the deck beam and deck battens notch into the transom and that gives you the curvature of the deck, side to side.

Bevel the whole edge, follow the drawings for the direction of angle. Note that much of this will get faired back later.
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specialk
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Looks nice...
Keep up the good work...will have to get together one day..and check out your progress...
My build is...Flats Flyer Build S.C.
Kelly...1st Boat...Flats Flyer
2nd Boat.....?

Feex
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Bluesman, thanks for the reply! I only received one box of 1 1/4" nails. I added a few screws for good measure on #6 (not 7) since I only had 1" nails available. It wasn't clear to cut the transom plywood a little larger. I think I can bevel the frame and account for the flat portion of the plywood with filler, as needed, later.

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specialk, that's Bluesman's boat! :D

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I have quite a few nails left over from a previous build. I'd be happy to send you what you need as I'm finished with that part of the build. Send me a PM if you like and we can exchange addresses...I'm in Charleston SC.

I believe I used 5 or more per gusset...and I did not run out. If you ordered the fastener kit from Glen-L I would ask if you got the right amount. I had an entire box left over from the current build...and a box left over from my previous build.

Feex
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mickfly, thanks for the offer. I'm good for now. I've re-supplied myself. Appreciate the offer!

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I'd really like to get a read from Glen-L as to the intent of the note.

riplash
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Hey neighbor. I am building a Calypso in Melbourne. Between 192 and Eau Gallie. So you are less than 10 miles away. I am at work now but hope to start calypso build thread tonight.

Ryan RIP lash.

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kens
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I think I am going down to Jupiter, Fl to get some boat parts.
Maybe we could have lunch? I'd be on I-95.
Oak..........the juice ain't worth the squeeze :D :shock: :o :)

Feex
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kens, sorry I missed ya!

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I think I am going down to Jupiter, Fl to get some boat parts.
Maybe we could have lunch? I'd be on I-95./quote]

Or did you even go yet?

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kens
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haven't left yet, its a future planning thing, maybe a month out
Oak..........the juice ain't worth the squeeze :D :shock: :o :)

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