Fisherman

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Re: Fisherman

Post by TomB » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:09 pm

Good list.

I would add a pull saw and a wicked sharp chisel (I don't have much of a rasp). Basically cut a wide notch in the piece to be faired, chines at each frame for example, then draw a line notch to notch, and buzz off the stuff above the notches with the power plane. Get close fast, then slow dance from end to end until it looks like a boat.

All your effort in fairing is paying off, looking like it will be a nice boat.

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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:16 pm

Two thumbs up on shim job. Worked out good.

I put additional material on transom to make it a bit beefier.

Got my plywood!

Moving along.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:17 pm

Clamping shim
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Re: Fisherman

Post by hoodman » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:57 pm

Ah yes. Pulling out all the clamps!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by BarnacleMike » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:23 pm

Looking great! Coming along nicely!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:21 pm

Michael,

I noticed your 'time to take a break" photos from Christmas.

I spent most of my time this weekend trying to get any/all variation out my fairing. Did not really to anything to battens, but I also have a 1/16 variation here and there.

When is it close enough?

Thanks,

Eric
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Re: Fisherman

Post by Bill Edmundson » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:26 pm

Eric
When is it close enough?
When you are happy.

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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:01 pm

Makes sense. I’m happy and nervous at the same time. 😁🤔
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Re: Fisherman

Post by PeterG » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:34 pm

What Bill says! If you are satisfied and happy with it, it's definitely close enough. A 1/16" variation usually won't be visible. You're doing great and your boat is coming along nicely!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by BarnacleMike » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:19 am

Bill Edmundson wrote:
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Eric
When is it close enough?
When you are happy.

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Like PeterG, I can really only echo what Bill said. You’ll have to be the one to decide when it’s acceptable.

1/16” variations “here and there” will probably work just fine. That’s probably better than my Utility was when I planked it... and I’ve had no complaints.

As for the 1/16” variations on my Zip, I’m going to try to even them out a little more, as best I can. I’ve found that I get to a point where “fixing” one spot only creates a problem somewhere else. When all of those are within pretty close tolerances, I think I’m done. Speaking for myself, I don’t have the woodworking skill to get it “perfect.” Trying to get it “perfect” can drive you nuts, anyway.
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Re: Fisherman

Post by TomB » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:21 am

Eric,

Is 1/16" close enough? That depends...if you plan to park the Fisherman in living room maybe not. :wink:

A 1/16" won't bother the boats function. Can you live with it is the real question. Would a little duck pond mud or a ding or two from decoy weights cover any imperfections? I fished out of a very similar boat built long ago, the gaps, digs and dents, layers of varnish and house paint made the boat handsome.

As you fair the frames and battens you also fair the air around the wood. If it will bother you, I would leave a 1/16" low and maybe take a little off the 1/16" high spot. Fairing off a 1/16" after the planking goes on is a lot more work. Avoid drawing the planking tight over the low area and let thickened epoxy fill the gap or touch up the low spots after the flip.

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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:29 am

Can't thank everyone enough for taking the time to share your perspective and wisdom. You reminded me why I am building a boat in the first place.

This is a fisherman my friend owns that was build in 1994; and the inspiration for my build. It has had more fish scales and duck feathers in it than anyone can remember at this point.

Can't wait to see the smiles on my daughters faces when they catch a nice striped bass out of our boat!
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Re: Fisherman

Post by Bill Edmundson » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:40 am

epiziali

Those smiles are half the reason to build the boat! I've taken two old Navy men out on the Tahoe. When I gave them the helm... You can't take those smiles away from me!

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Re: Fisherman

Post by epiziali » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:28 pm

Hello Everyone,

I have my side planking cut and ready to glue and screw. Just thinking through my butt joint.

Was planning to install butt block after first sheet goes in, clamp, glue, and screw to planking. Repeat for second sheet.

Anyone have best approach or link to steps? I've seen steps that show joining the sheets on the ground, but thinking it will be easy to do in place.

Thanks,

Eric
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Re: Fisherman

Post by BarnacleMike » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:59 pm

I found deep-throat C clamps really indispensable for this. I think the ones I have are either 3 or 3-1/2 inch throats. Deeper would be better.

(They're also called "deep reach" C clamps at various stores... for fairly obvious reasons.)

These will let you reach around the exposed part of the backing block to clamp it to the planking while the epoxy cures. The backing block then takes on the curvature of your planking, helping the second part of the butt joint hold the same shape.

Here's a photo where I used these clamps on the butt joint for the bottom planking:

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