Building The Vera Cruise

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Carl

I have cut bungs with a hand drill. It's no big deal. The press is easier though. I bought my drill press at Big Lots for $30. It does what I need it to do and is small and light.

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Okay Bill, Thanks. I'll experiment with the hand drill first and then go from there.
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Hi Carl,
I have cut close to 2,000 bungs for my boat. All on a drill press, using a fence. You could probably find a cheap bench top press from HFT if the hand drill is too difficult. But then it all depends on how many you are cutting. HFT also has plug cutters that are just fine. Once you cut all of the bungs, you can cut off the back side of the piece of wood and they will just fall out. You can easily drill the holes for the bungs with a hand drill. The most important thing is that you drill with a forester drill bit so you have clean edges for the bungs. I used varnish instead of glue for the bungs. (easy to re position if the grain direction isn't just right.) You can also purchase small quantities of mahogany bungs from classic boat connection, but they are pretty pricey. Page 9 of my build shows my "bung" phase in life.
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Carl,

This is what we used to plug the caprails:

Milescraft 1318 Drillmate Drill Guide

Sorry I don't have a pic or a link.

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:D Some where,I saw a way to make to make different size dowels-first,you drill a hole at a 45 degree in steel plate(same size as you need)then put square stick(close to same size)in a drill and force down hole.I haven't tried that yet but sounds promising.The pic showed 90 degree hole but bet that even just a little angle would be easier. :D then cut off dowel for plugs.
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Plug cutters cut bungs with a taper. Tap the bungs into place with a tack hammer for a nice tight fit.
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Carl,

I use a cheap tabletop "mini" drill press to cut bungs. It works just fine, although I've found that I have to go slowly.

I haven't tried it with a hand drill... seems like it would be a real PITA to me. But then again, my plug cutters are nothing special. Off-the-shelf ACE Hardware.
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This looks like a newer version of the one I have.

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If you need a drill press just to cut bungs, why not look into the "craigslist tool rental" program? Just find a drill press on Craigslist and sell it when you are done. If you find the right one, it probably won't cost you anything.
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JimmY wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:25 am
and sell it when you are done.
I keep forgetting that part. :lol: :lol:

A template hole cut to the plug cutter diameter might help get the plug cutter started since the cutter is centerless.

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I purchased a plug and plug hole set of the desired diameter from Woodcraft. I think Rockler and other places sell them, too. I set the drill press so it cuts the plugs in my scrap wood just before penetrating the wood to the other side. Then I pop the plugs free from the parent wood with a screwdriver. This is fast and easy and ensures the correct wood color and I can orient the grain pattern to get the best match.

I also pre-drill the cover and deck boards on the drill press to get the plug hole the correct depth leaving enough wood to secure the board with the screws. Then the plug hole is drilled and countersunk for the retaining screws. Once the boards are glued and screwed down, the plugs are popped in and sheared off and sanded. I do not use any glue so I don't prevent stain from properly soaking in. I let the finish coat be the adhesive.

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Thanks for all the good replies everyone! I am going to give the hand drill approach a try first on some scrap and if successful I'll use it for the cabin sides. I=f I am uncomfortable with it, I'll go out and buy a a small (or maybe used) drill press.

I had to wait for the bung maker to arrive today so I decided to do some more shop work. I now have a roll around scarp wood bin (which I forgot to take a picture of) . I finished this on Friday. Today I installed a three door set of cabinets on the wall. I was going to make these, but figured that by the time I bought all the materials and hardware and spent a bunch of time making it, I could get an acceptable alternative by buying one already made. Not as strong as I could have made it, but I didn't really want to get into another distraction from the boat.

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Tomorrow, I'll be getting back to the bungs and hopefully get one of the cabin sides installed. Unfortunately I have to spend part of tomorrow at my real job so I won't be able to get both cabin sides done.
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Carl - Your shop is looking nice and tidy; I may need to clean up my shop of these days too :D

I'm not sure if anyone has said this but another way to get the plugs out of the substrate: Once you drill a bunch of plugs, cover them with blue tape and re-saw them on the bandsaw, then pull the tape off and all the plugs will be on the tape ready to use. I'm not sure if your bandsaw is up to the re-sawing challenge though.
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When drilling holes on an uneven surface, where you need the hole to be perpendicular to the surface, I use one of these:
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Works with any drill, and small (and cheap) enough to toss in a drawer when you don't need it.
If you don't get the holes or plugs perpendicular to the surface, you risk gaps.

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Re: Building The Vera Cruise

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Well, I've been away for a few days. No excuses, it just happened. But I've made some progress on both the build and the shop.

The shop still needs the electrical installed, but boat work and family events have conspired to keep this on the back burner for the moment. Here's some pictures. Pictures of the build in the next thread post in a moment.
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