Lee's Monaco utility build

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by Jimbob » Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:06 pm

Hi Lee
Nice work! That's a neat jig you made. If I ever have to cut a scarf joint again I'm going to use a jig like yours instead the router method that I used.
Jim
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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:28 am

Jim,

Thank you. This jig is really handy. You have to make two of them for cutting scarf joints for boards that are wider than the depth of cut you can make with your table saw. You cut one side of the scarf and then flip the board over to cur the over side. The angles of each jig need to match. They take a little fine tuning but again, it works great. The pieces need to be clamped to the jig but make sure not to clamp too close to the cut so you don't hit the clamp with the saw blade. Make sure to wear your safety gear and take your time.

Lee

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:13 pm

I'm working on mounting the frames to the stringers with clips. I also am remembering to install the clips at frames 3 and 4 on the outside of the stringers so they won't interfere with the engine mounts.

Lee
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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:52 pm

Various parts of the instructions (e.g. for the frames, chine, etc.) say to "glue and fasten per the schedule". However, in the motor stringer clip area the instructions say "Fasten the clips to the frames and stringers with 1/4" carriage bolts, two in each member, backed up with a generous sized washer on the nut end". There is no mention of gluing or epoxy. It appears that the clips aren't supposed to be epoxied to the frames or the stringers. Am I reading this right? Thoughts?

Lee

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by TomB » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:59 pm

Lee,

Not sure about the Monaco, for the Tahoe the instruction for Glues & Fastenings says "All junctions are to be glued and fastened unless noted otherwise."

Tom

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by Ozzieboat » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:53 am

Lee
I epoxied the clips to the frames and stringers. There will never be a need to pull them apart and the epoxy will add to the rigidity of the joint. Back to your previous post, I put all of the clips on the outside of the stringers. This keeps the front and rear cockpit foot well clear. With the front well make the floor as low as you can, on both sides of the stringers as the cockpit is a bit short on leg room. May not be a big problem being a utility, but in the standard build the front cockpit is a bit squeezy. I note you also extended the floor timbers where the clips are on the outside, good foresight.

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:27 am

Thank you for the feedback. Epoxy for the clips it is...

Ozzieboat,

I extended the floor timbers as much as I thought I could to give me margin with the width of the stringers. I would like to think I had the foresight to do this to be able to put the clips on the outside but I must confess, that is not why I did it. :) Sometimes I get lucky and as I might say, I would rather be lucky than good. :) :)

Lee

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:40 pm

The notches for the keel are just about done. I used a cross line laser level to help make sure things are straight. I cut the notches with a pull saw and Dremel tool. I hit a bronze screw with my pull saw and that didn't do it any good :shock: :? It is now missing some teeth.
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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:32 pm

The stem and all of the frames are now epoxied and in place permanently. So is the transom. I also epoxied the scarf joint for the first lam of the keel. I decided to start on the chine notches. I went too far on the transom notch so a spacer will have to be used. I can deal with small mistakes and I am just trying to avoid the big ones :roll:

I have 245 hours in the build so far.

Lee
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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by footer » Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:46 pm

I used my dremel oscillating saw for the vertical cuts, then used my router to cut out all my notches for my battens. Carbide bits cut through silicon bronze screws without too much trouble. That worked for me, anyway.
Looking good though.

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:13 pm

Thank you. I have a dremel oscillating saw and I did use it for the keel notches. That is a good idea to use it for my batten notches. I might try to use it for the chine notches but I can be dangerous with it :) I have more control and I can't do as much damage (as quickly anyway) with a hand saw :)

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:48 pm

The starboard chine notches are done except for some possible fine tuning. The compound angles of the notches, especially towards the bow, are tricky. I figured out a good way to cut the notches towards the bow using my dremel oscillating saw along with a guide board but I forgot to take a picture. I will try to remember to take pictures when I do the port side notches which I started today.

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by Avisser » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:05 am

Are you doing two layers of material for the chines? Those notches look really deep with that strip.

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:07 pm

Yes, the chine logs consist of two laminations on the Monaco. The angle of the last picture I makes the notch look too deep for even two chine boards but it is not. I have 3-4 chine notches to go on the port side.

Lee

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Re: Lee's Monaco utility build

Post by denbrlr » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:33 pm

The chine notches are done. I was wrong, the notch at frame eight on the starboard side was a little too deep so I had to fix that :oops: along with a few other places. Those compound angles are tricky :?

Now I am preparing to laminate the keel. Onward... :)

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