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parsj1957
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Re: new the forum and first time boat builder

Post by parsj1957 »

Wow! I gotta say you've got one lucky grandson -- nice build!
I used all screws on my Sweet Caroline build because I had a bunch and would have had to buy the nails -- just countersunk and filled anywhere I was painting and countersunk/capped where it's bright. I'd guess that the presumption was that nails are cheaper than screws and the typical goal was to keep the build cost low - hence the call for nails where possible.
J.

Ed Phillips
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Re: new the forum and first time boat builder

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Thanks for the boat compliment parsj1957 as well as the nail response. I never thought of lower costs and that does make sense because this little boat if supposed to be a low cost unit. I also have some screws left and I found temporarily anchoring the plywood with screws so I could align things and then take them back out as an advantage.
As for the lucky grandson observation, I can assure you grandpa is the lucky one

thanks again

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Re: new the forum and first time boat builder

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Well with the inside all sealed up I moved to the floor boards and the seat bottoms. These are hickory so I applied two coats of Spar varnish top and bottom. The seat bottom I installed with finishing nails between the tongue and groove and I nailed them to the top of the number 1 frame and the inner transom boards. This puts them about 3 inches off the bottom, and nailing into the frames didn't concern me. After considerable deliberation as to whether I should glue the floor boards in place to eliminate any warpage or let them float so in a year or so after my grandson gets in and out of it with wet sand covered feet I opted to let them float. I figured if they do warp I can easily make another one and this way refinishing them will be easy as well. With that done I moved on to the deck boards and per previous conversations with parsj1957 I glued and screwed the boards on. Moving on the planeing the excess overhang off next. But does look like a boat now!
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parsj1957
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Re: new the forum and first time boat builder

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Looking sweet! It's going to be a beauty!
J.

Ed Phillips
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Re: new the forum and first time boat builder

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Well I got the plywood overhang cut off, and got the first pass with the fairing compound on. Also managed to get a couple coats of varnish on the dash and side boats to match up with the other sections I had already varnished. Maybe one more coat of varnish and I am calling the inside finishing done. Getting ready to flip her over and do some fiber glassing and painting, So this brings up a couple questions I would like some guidance on from fellow boat builders

I don't think a quart of epoxy will do the bottom and sides of this Pee Wee so I guess I need to buy a gallon?

I want a glossy finish on the sides and thought I could just use above the waterline paint on the bottom as well, but after talking to a couple paint manufactures they say it would bubble if I left it in the water like I intend to do. It was recommended that I could use Pettit vivid on the bottom, as it is a glossy paint. So is there any reason I can't just use it on the sides as well?

Open to other suggestions also

Thanks Ed
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Ed Phillips
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Re: new the forum and first time boat builder

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Well it finally got warm enough here in Michigan for me to fiberglass my grandson's Pee Wee. I intended to buy the kit from Glen L but it is not listed anymore so I bought the materials from Total Boat. I am following the Glen l procedure with Total Boat's products and so far so good. I still need to put the fill coat and the finish coat on but I think I am on the downhill side of this phase of the project.
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Ed Phillips
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Re: new the forum and first time boat builder

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I got the fill coat and the finish coat on and I put them on with a sponge roller. It turned out kind of lumpy, but with the aid of a body file (see pic) it came out OK but took some time. There was a couple spots I could see the weave of the fiberglass so I added some more epoxy with a sponge brush and the finish with the brush was considerably better than the roller. Not that I plan on building another boat but anyone reading this take note the the sponge brush will eliminate a bunch of finish work.
All things considered I am happy with it and I am happy I added the fiberglass even though I was extremely nervous about it and had visions of having to remove it all because I screwed it up. But as others have said, read everything about preparation and procedures, have a clear plan, lay your materials and tools out ahead of time, having a helper is great, and then it's not that big a deal.
Painting next, hurray I can see the end now!
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Remi's boat after fiberglaa rear view.jpg
Remi's boat after fiberglass front view.jpg
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Ed Phillips
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Re: new the forum and first time boat builder

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Managed to get 3 coats of Total Boat Flag Blue on the sides and 3 coats of Krypton ablative white on the bottom. I painted both with a sponge brush and although not perfectly smooth. it passes for my taste. I didn't thin it at all and I think in order to get a smoother finish it needs to be thinned somewhat because it's pretty thick
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